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Why was the reference to the term "dude rag" removed from the durag article by 206.131.130.190 on May 23, '05? Alternative names and spellings are greatly significant to the topic; on the streets in my area, the term "dude rag" is used more commonly than any other. The name "do-wrap" may also be of interest.
Furthermore, I am opposed to the racial delineations made the article. The reference to "African-American men" may seem appropriate in the context of hair. However, the cultural group among whom the durag is currently popular is not limited to any race. I have seen European-Americans wearing durags, and indisputably, Asian-Americans also wear them. In this case, The word "Ebonic" would be far more appropriate-- and far, far less offensive. I wasn't there in the beginning of durags, but I speculate that, even then, they were worn by members of other races. Regardless, hair-texture and culture are the relevant details here, not race. Such unnecessary racial distinctions only serve to exaserbate trivial differences between essentially similar people, effectually driving them apart.
--Jack "Jaeger"
I think there must be some discussion about the history of this word. The spelling of this word that seems most intersting is probaly 'do-rag which gives the impression that it may have come from "hair-do-rag" which is somewhat justified by the article as well ("...hold chemically processed hair-dos in place..."). Certainly the spelling of the "word" durag gives me little or no help in determining the history of this word or of the wrap it describes.
Best I can tell from Google, durag is not the most popular spelling. Here are my (unscientific) findings:
- durag - 17,100 pages
- do-rag or doo-rag - 42,600 pages
So, does anyone have a justification for this spelling or a certain history of this term?
One last item: The term Ebonic Youth seems to be a completely new and possibly made-up term used only in this article. The previous commenter (Jack "Jaeger") mentions it as being an appropriate term, but I cannot find any mainstream reference to the term being used like this. The term Ebonics is, of course, well used and there is a significant entry which is, importantly, missing even the word ebonic let alone a term like Ebonic Youth.
I myself am not sure who adopted the fashion trend in the 70s and 90s, but I submit it is not useful to make up a new term just to avoid the term African-American men.
-- Scott
"Ebonic youth?" You know better than that. --FuriousFreddy 15:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, that probably is a niche term. I guess "dude rag" isn't very widely used either. It only shows up about 700 results on Google. But there has to be some non-racial name; It can get pretty old to hear people saying "black" when it has nothing to do with the topic.
Also, Scott, there is a hip-hop artist called Doo Rag, which may be why "do-rag OR doo-rag" returned so many results. I revised your comparison and came up with this:
- do-rag - 216,000
- du-rag - 313,000
The packages of all the popular brands say "DURAG" or "Du-Rag" on them, if that's any indicator of the correct term. Maybe it's just in my area, but if you never bought one of these, you could go to the corner store to look at some. :-D
--Jack
[edit] Picture needed
When everyones done screwing around with the very predictable racist crap could some one come up with a picture. This is after all, an encyclopedia. If someone looks this up, then we should provide some good information. Good information would include an image. Thanks --hydnjo talk 06:30, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Actual gang color use
The article implies that gang colored do-rags are a Holywood invention. Is that true or are/were they really used this way. Rmhermen 16:53, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
No, this is absolutely true! While gangs have nothing to do with popularizing durags, CK's and BK's in my neighborhood wear their colors proudly, and this includes solid-color rags. Of course, some people (especially young kids) do wear solid-color rags without gang involvement. I'd personally never wear a red or blue one.
The article doesn't imply anything about gangs. Gang members also wear solid-color shirts, but you won't find any references to gangs in the article about shirts!
--Jack
[edit] Dew Rag?
The bit with the Civil-War era "Dew Rag" seems a bit weak to me... can anyone confirm this or provide references?
Jack says: Your comment should at least be signed as "anonymous". Er... yuk yuk yuk. Yeah, the nature of that suggestion really calls for some sort of verification. I'd personally find it kind of amusing to know what kind of source this idea came from... --Jack 06:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
As a white person I have always been under the impression that the use of du-rags (spell it the way you like) had origins in prison gangs. Is there any truth to this? 209.247.5.215 00:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)JOE S
[edit] Where did the article go?
Why the hell was the article about "do-rags" replaced on the same page by an article about some dumb video game character? And can someone explain why the new article makes no reference whatsoever to the term "do-rag." It looks like somebody screwed up big time. Can somebody find all the lost stuf about "do-rags" so we can copy this text to the appropriate article and clear this space for the "do-rag" article? Just a thought... 66.44.154.30 06:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
