Talk:DJ Sharpnel
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Would anyone care to explain the history of this artist and explain the SRPC numbering system?
- I'll ask around and maybe look for something written down that I can quote from, but I doubt I'll be able to find anything useful. freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ 17:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I tried to explain the SRPC system. But without being able to speak Japanese, and with no outside source, I can't interview the guys at SharpnelSound or search through Japanese sources. Being a DJ the history probably extends to other aliases, shows done and releases made prior to the name.--Notmyhandle 05:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Song Name?
Where did the song name "Dokudenpa" come from? I've always seen it as "POISON AIR WAVE". Can anyone explain this? I don't understand it unless "ドクデンパ" translates into "Dokudenpa", and SHARPNEL just changed it to "POISON AIR WAVE" for English.- Bkid My talk/Contribs 04:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it is Poison Air Wave since it's a dirty mix of Air Wave; yet the line Dokudenpa is sung within the song and using Google Language Tools it translates ドクデンパ it into Romanji in the form of "Dokudenpa". The name is also present within the stepfile/song that was used in the Keyboard Megapack that once was easily found for Stepmania; when the file is played it shows as Poison Air Wave. --Notmyhandle 05:09, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources (Song clips)
[edit] Please add needed sources to this thread
- In the song Shihen, there is a female voice singing in Japanese in the first 1/3 of the song. If identified, please add to the source list.--Notmyhandle 05:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
While trying to figure out where I recognized the a portion of the vocals in the track Sacoree (By Bqr, not DJ Sharpnel, but featured on one of his CDs) I found the thread which is linked below, that contains tons of information regarding his sources. I'm not sure if the information should be added in a table, or if the section should be removed. In the meantime I'm going to go ahead and add the thread to the external links section. http://keternal.pestermom.com/kbbs/thread.php?postid=8410 DarkProdigy 05:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] HARTMANS CLAP
Changed to HARTMANS CRAP, since that's what it is. :) - Bkid My talk/Contribs 05:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Why did you post in the talk page then? If it's non-debatable you just make the change, maybe citing a reference on the page or in the summary. I think I added that song and my reference was from one of the radio playlists at hardrave.jp; which is in no way accurate title wise (as I've come to learn). --Notmyhandle 08:52, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's actually Hartman's Clap as noted on the CD Notes, viewable in the reference. Also note that Jea is often concious of errors like these, such as with the song I Rave You. --Notmyhandle 22:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yea, the CD labels it with an "l" and not an "r", however some titles, actually more specifally, the tracks and albums listed in the Yonderdome album, trade out the "l" for "r". Like Endress Summer instead of Endless Summer or Metaric-A- instead of Metalic-A-. I'm not sure if it's a Japanese/English pronunciation deal or not. --Dark Ragnarok 00:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- It's actually Hartman's Clap as noted on the CD Notes, viewable in the reference. Also note that Jea is often concious of errors like these, such as with the song I Rave You. --Notmyhandle 22:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sources, the Wikipedia Crack Down
Most contributors probably don't understand this, so it must be stated. First of all, please read Wikipedia:Attribution if you have no idea. The main point applicable to this article and especially the sources (which are by far the least important part of the article) is that of No Original Research, Unsourced material and Original Research. Thus until any new sources can be brought to light, all non-sourced samples will be removed by me. If by the end of April no sources can be found for the current samples, non-sourced samples will be deleted as well. --Notmyhandle 00:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I totally agree on every aspect, but about half of my contributions on the sources were all mentioned on this page http://keternal.pestermom.com/kbbs/thread.php?postid=8410 However, this site is now down and the references are lost. Any idea of what to do? --Anstalt 10:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree to the above with one concern. I attributed about 5-7 song references based on my own research. For example after watching Fruits Basket I noticed that the 1st episode where you hear a high pitched frequency and the girls dialogue was like that in the song Posion Air Wave {Dokudepna]. When I listened to W@rez my friend recognized the melody and said it was from Donkey Kong. I went on youtube and compared the 2 melodies and they matched, as well as with Twinbee and ICQ. Ghost Ghost sounds already like a Ghost in the Shell reference, and if you play the song and listen carefully, you'll hear Mitoko's voice very distictively. If i remember correctly I even hear the name Mitoko. But i could be wrong. For the song 20031023, I also distinctly heard the name Asuna-San in dialogue which is taken from the anime series Mahou Sensei Negima. The list goes on, but does that mean I can't post my own research? I can provide lots of links and even take the time to show the individual clips from the songs and anime parts as further proof, but I'm not entirely sure where to post all this. --Dark Ragnarok 00:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is 1)noting every source for every song is NOT within the scope of wikipedia; the sections should be removed except for the 3 songs that have references and they should be integrated into a more generalized info section, probably at the top of the page to remove any compendium like original research from happening. I know it sucks, if you're interested there is an electronic music wiki (albeit new/unpopular) at http://electronicmusic.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page so you can dump info there if you like. 2) The fact that it is original research also means it shouldn't be here, even if it is fact. That's wikipedia, and you'll have to abide by its policies. Since the forum reference no longer exists, well first I'd say it wasn't a very notable source to begin with, and second of all, well its dead so it doesn't count. --Notmyhandle 21:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. Well, in computer class i was working on my own sharpnel dedicated expo where it would actually lsit the souces with wiki's help. I was going to have all the albums listed and all the songs for the pre versions and final pressed cds listed and everything. i actually have it about half done. I could just make a free forum on ezboards or the like and let the listing continue there. I wonder if there's any real info besides song referneces we can post about sharpnel. At one point i contacted the manager of a sharpnel fan based myspace profile, who claims he met Jea and Lemmy and he gave me some info about how they work in Japan and stuff. the fan based one i knew got delted over time, but every once in ahwile i still talk to him. Once i find a way to export those references someplace else it can be used, then i'll even remove the section myself. Thx for the clarification. --Dark Ragnarok 01:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- I went ahead and dumped it at http://electronicmusic.wikia.com/wiki/DJ_Sharpnel; note that people like you should help get that wiki going, it would really help in allowing information to be listed of non-notable artists as well... Anyways if you want information on DJ Sharpnel, why don't you just email Jea (jea@sharpnel.com)? --Notmyhandle 03:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, i'm not fluent in japanese, and i'm not sure how much english they know. But hell i'll find out. XD. might as well add to wiki if i can. As far as music goes though, me and my friends, and others are total techno junkies. We all have our preferences, and so far i like the most hardcore of them, but they all have their artists they love like my love for sharpnel. I'll get them to help out. Thx for that tho ^^. --Dark Ragnarok 00:02, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- I went ahead and dumped it at http://electronicmusic.wikia.com/wiki/DJ_Sharpnel; note that people like you should help get that wiki going, it would really help in allowing information to be listed of non-notable artists as well... Anyways if you want information on DJ Sharpnel, why don't you just email Jea (jea@sharpnel.com)? --Notmyhandle 03:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense. Well, in computer class i was working on my own sharpnel dedicated expo where it would actually lsit the souces with wiki's help. I was going to have all the albums listed and all the songs for the pre versions and final pressed cds listed and everything. i actually have it about half done. I could just make a free forum on ezboards or the like and let the listing continue there. I wonder if there's any real info besides song referneces we can post about sharpnel. At one point i contacted the manager of a sharpnel fan based myspace profile, who claims he met Jea and Lemmy and he gave me some info about how they work in Japan and stuff. the fan based one i knew got delted over time, but every once in ahwile i still talk to him. Once i find a way to export those references someplace else it can be used, then i'll even remove the section myself. Thx for the clarification. --Dark Ragnarok 01:41, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is 1)noting every source for every song is NOT within the scope of wikipedia; the sections should be removed except for the 3 songs that have references and they should be integrated into a more generalized info section, probably at the top of the page to remove any compendium like original research from happening. I know it sucks, if you're interested there is an electronic music wiki (albeit new/unpopular) at http://electronicmusic.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page so you can dump info there if you like. 2) The fact that it is original research also means it shouldn't be here, even if it is fact. That's wikipedia, and you'll have to abide by its policies. Since the forum reference no longer exists, well first I'd say it wasn't a very notable source to begin with, and second of all, well its dead so it doesn't count. --Notmyhandle 21:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree to the above with one concern. I attributed about 5-7 song references based on my own research. For example after watching Fruits Basket I noticed that the 1st episode where you hear a high pitched frequency and the girls dialogue was like that in the song Posion Air Wave {Dokudepna]. When I listened to W@rez my friend recognized the melody and said it was from Donkey Kong. I went on youtube and compared the 2 melodies and they matched, as well as with Twinbee and ICQ. Ghost Ghost sounds already like a Ghost in the Shell reference, and if you play the song and listen carefully, you'll hear Mitoko's voice very distictively. If i remember correctly I even hear the name Mitoko. But i could be wrong. For the song 20031023, I also distinctly heard the name Asuna-San in dialogue which is taken from the anime series Mahou Sensei Negima. The list goes on, but does that mean I can't post my own research? I can provide lots of links and even take the time to show the individual clips from the songs and anime parts as further proof, but I'm not entirely sure where to post all this. --Dark Ragnarok 00:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
