Talk:Disturbed/Archive 2

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B-side EP Rumor

Wikipedia is a place for facts which can be backed up or proven, not rumors started by fans. Because of this i am removing the last sentence of the History section ("Disturbed is rumored to come out with an EP for these tracks sometime in 2007."). If someone can find an interview with the band where they state their intention to release such an EP, then by all means include the information in the article, and cite you sources (i find a release of this nature unlikely though, as all of the tracks mentioned have already been released on singles and imports).65.43.223.151 21:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually i removed both sentences concerning the b-sides and the EP. The b-sides are listed in the appropriate place in the article, and the fact that they leaked onto the internet is not something worthy of mention in an encyclopedia. If there are tracks released by a popular band, they will get leaked onto the internet eventually, regardless of how hard it is to obtain the cds which they are released on.65.43.223.151 21:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


New Album?

Does anyone know when this new album is coming out or what its called?GuyDoe 22:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Just look above for my comment you can post an answer here or at my talk page.GuyDoe 22:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a discussion forum. There are several disturbed fansites, i'm sure one of them has a forum where you can ask these questions.65.43.223.151 21:50, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you 65.45.223.151, I would have said the same thing. Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!See my edits!) 23:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC
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Miscellaneous Edits

I changed the first sentence to say "Disturbed is an American Hard Rock band" as opposed to alternative metal; changed the list to the way it was meant to be; corrected a spelling mistake ("there" to "their"). Dan 00:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Your changes are not correct and have been reverted. Read the ongoing (or, i actually hoped it was over) discussion, and talk/propose if you disagree. - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 02:29, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have read that, but with all the references we have I figured hard rock was a highly more suitable main genre than alternative metal... have you even heard Disturbed's music? Dan 14:26, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll leave that question unanswered, as i don't know if i should be angry or laugh about it. The bands music is very diverse, especially on their latest album. While there are many influences which give some of their tracks clear touches of hard rock and/or heavy metal, alternative metal is clearly the best way to describe their overall style. Calling them a plain hard rock band is rediculous. Have you ever heard someone put Disturbed in a line with AC/DC? I have not. - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 17:49, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Diverse, yes, but if you read this site's description of alternative metal, you'll see it's not exacty the perfect description for Disturbed. I'm still certain alternative metal is the wrong "main genre" and perhaps you should give some more convincing points to prove your point. Dan 18:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

That's not my part. You find a term that describes their musical style better than alternative metal (which by the way is very broad and loose term), bring it on. - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 03:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I'll have a go, but let's try to keep this a friendly debate and not a mindless dispute... Alternative Metal (according to this site): "It is characterized by some heavy metal trappings (most notably heavy riffs), but usually with a pronounced experimental edge, including unconventional lyrics, odd time signatures, unusual technique, a resistance to conventional approaches to heavy music and an incorporation of a wide range of influences outside of the metal music scene." Granted, a close description at the beginning, but the end of the statement doesn't seem too appropriate to me...
Now, Hard Rock (according to this site): "It is typified by a heavy use of distorted electric guitar, bass guitar and drums. The term "hard rock" is often used as an umbrella term for genres such as punk, grunge, and heavy metal, in order to distinguish them from softer, more radio friendly pop rock music." True, not the perfect description, but peronally I think it's superior (if only slightly) to Alternative Metal... Your thoughts? Dan 03:33, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

I do not agree with these definitions. Many different sources may have different definitions of the terms, but hard rock could also (by many people) be considered as the category that includes band such as Led Zeppelin or Deep Purple. I think the alternative metal term is correct enough. --Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!See my edits!) 10:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Agreed. The probable fact that you end up with the same words when describing Disturbed, and when describing hard rock, does not mean they are the same. Disturbed may have a hard rock influence, but are in general nothing alike bands you would consider hard rock bands. - - 'twsx'talk'cont' 01:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Well alright then, you win. Dan 04:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok I think it should be hard rock, not alternative metal. But that was a stupid debate, that is a matter of opinion, some people say Insane Clown Posse is Alternative when its rap. That is really all opinionated. BobsTeR


Ten Thousand Fists Single?

I do not recall any source showing Disturbed having a Ten Thousand Fists single... Even on Amazon, the only singles you can find are Guarded, Stricken (both versions), and Land of Confusion. There is no information about this single anywhere and I do not know where the chart position came from. Can anyone prove that it even exists? Dan 21:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

look on here
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?g=Singles&f=Hot+Mainstream+Rock+Tracks
there hasn't been a physical single released, but it has been charting in the mainstream rock chart, possibily on downloads. i'm not too sure exactly how they work as i'm not from the us. The billboard site also allows you to look at the chart history of bands, hence showing that the table that was up that showed the chart positions was correct .Grim Reaper66 16:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)