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[edit] Not only Scientologists are disconnected

I think this "disconnection" is a more loose concept than described here in that it applies to other religious cults too. I've come across it in Jehova's Witnesses in particular, but I think one of the features of a cult is members are encourage to cut themselves off from outsiders and outside influence that might set them straight. But this needs to be cited appropriately, etc. — Dunc|☺ 17:14, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

yes, this article should at the very least be moved Lost Goblin 14:12, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

In the meantime, Disconnection (Scientology) probably should be the main page that Disconnection redirects to, not the other way around. wikipediatrix 14:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Scientology is the only religion that is notable for using the term "disconnection" to refer to its religious shunning practices. Other religions use different terms, and the general term for the practice is called Shunning. Vivaldi (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Uhu? What has this to do with religion? This wikipedia article was the first time in my life that I ever heard the term "disconnection" related to any religion; and I have heard and used it billions of times, if your network connections are never disconnected you must be using some really special protocol! --Lost Goblin 18:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a dictionary. Its an encyclopedia. If you want to know the definitions of words like "disconnect", you might try Wiktionary at Disconnect].

[edit] Useless stub creation

Bantab, what's the point in creating a useless stub that just adds an extra layer on manual indirection to get to the Disconnection (Scientoloy), or what ever it was called, page? Other religions do have policy like Scientology's disconnection, but I don't know of any that call it that. Unless there's actual name confusion, there's no point in moving pages around. There is a reference to the Shunning page. If you'd like it enhanced, that would be a small change. All the Scientology pages are over 100 hundred interlocked pages that would have to be updated to point to the correct page. That would be a large change. In any event, Talk pages exist for a reason. AndroidCat 02:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Disconnection is a systematic process that occurs in many cults, Scientology being the most notable of them. I believe it would be beneficial to have a general explanation of disconnection in addition to the Scientology specific concept. The two are quite interrelated, so I'm not sure quite how this would best work. I am new at this, and messed up with the stub, however, I still think there should be a better discussion of disconnection in general as cult and / or religious practice. Perhaps formatting the topic as a general discuss with the information about scientology as an example? Like I said, I very new at this, so suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Bantab 02:25, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

H'okay, new we can fix! :) What you'd like is a general over-arching page that covers disconnection and shunning (and other names) in a variety of groups. Doesn't the Shunning page already do that? AndroidCat 02:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Scientology is the only religion that is notable for using the term "disconnection" to refer to its religious shunning practices. Other religions use different terms, and the general term for the practice is called Shunning. The Shunning article contains the "general explanation" of the shunning process and explains how it is termed or applied by various church and sects. Perhaps we can add a disambiguity message pointing people to Shunning if this is a real problem? We may be creating solutions to problems that don't exist. How many folks looking up the practice of religious shunning would end up here by mistake? Do any other religions use the term "Disconnection" to refer to their shunning rituals? Vivaldi (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I think there is a slight problem. Personally, I had never heard of it referred to as shunning, but I was not familiar with Jehovah, Mormon, etc. practices, only Davidian, Heaven's Gate, and other fringe cults. I think the easiest way to solve the problem is to create a link to shunning at the top of the page in additition to the one within the article. For example:

{{This article is about '''disconnection''' in Scientology. For information about disconnection and shunning in other religions, see [[shunning]].

--Bantab 16:19, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] disconnection...

In chemistry the term "Disconnection" is used about different possibilities on how to synthesize some target molecule. See for example Stuart Warren: "Organic Synthesis, The Disconnection Approach".

Disconnection is the process of chopping a complicated molecule into smaller and cheaper components that the complicated molecule can be made from. 130.225.245.182 20:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

IMO, This article should be renamed "Disconnection (Scientology)" and the regular disconnection article should be a disambig. Vpoko 20:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I would agree.--Fahrenheit451 16:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, really. For god's sake, people disconnect electrical devices every day, chemists disconnect molecule chains every day, there must be hundreds of instances of disconnection that everyone does. "disconnect the machine", "disconnect the battery", "disconnect the widget", etc. Terryeo