Talk:Direct-Shift Gearbox
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Uh, American reviews usually don't like CVT, but DSG is getting rave reviews here...
I will dig out (links to) the two articles that gave me that impression.
Both from BorgWarners investorrs web site, scanned in articles from "Auto News" (publication):- http://www.borgwarner.com/in_the_news/ane061305.pdf and http://www.borgwarner.com/in_the_news/an062705.pdf
- Agreed. This is an odd comment and in my opinion not relevant to this article. Perhaps the author was referring to the fact that more vehicles contain CVT's? Porcupine911 02:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Who are the two new European OEMs?
I have scanned the internet and can find numerous references to BorgWarners recent press release but no one has named the two new car manufactureres that will be able to use the DualTronic (DSG) gearbox in their 2007 models.
Mark 23:05, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
My understanding is that Mercedes-Benz and BMW will use DSG gearboxes under license from Borg-Warner. Meanwhile, Ford Motor Company announced their intention to build their own version of a DSG gearbox.
[edit] Isn't it VAG?
...to Volkswagen (which also owns the Audi, SEAT, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Škoda brands)
I think technically, all those brands are held under the VAG company (Volkswagen Audi Group) so this sentence is not exactly accurate... --67.189.98.43 02:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- VAG does not stand for Volkswagen Audi Group, but rather Volkswagenwerk Aktiengesellschaft, or "Volkswagen Corporation." TomTheHand 12:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
It is known as Volkswagen AG, AG (as explained) is a type of German company.
[edit] Veyron Gearbox?
My understanding is that the Dual Clutch transmission for the Veyron was the work of Ricardo PLC, the UK transmission specialist responsible for the Ford GT's transmission.
That would be backed up by the fact that they won an award for it (see http://www.ricardo.com/media/pressreleases/pressrelease.aspx?page=38 ).
The gearbox developed by Borg-Warner is certainly a nice piece of kit, but it's a different piece of equipment than the Veyron box - which has to deal with over 900lb.ft of torque in the Veyron.
While I am on the subject of amendments - the article reads like Borg Warner invented this class of transmission (dual-clutch, pre-engaging). I know that porsche used this design in the early 1970's on their Le Mans car of the time, and I expect the history goes back further than that. One could argue that Borg Warner "invented" DSG, but its akin to saying Ford "invented" the Mustang. They certainly make the car in question, but the point is, it's not an invention, it's a product...
Craigy 217.155.94.30 19:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Per your last point, what if we were to say, "...dual-clutch gearbox designed by BorgWarner" ? That would confer that this iteration of a dual-clutch transmission is their work, but doesn't imply that they invented the concept (much like Ford designed the Mustang). Peel 19:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] January 5
I added more to the page including operation, advantages, and disadvantages aswell as cleaned it up. KG
[edit] 8 or 80 milliseconds, which is it
The page says 80 millisecond shift times, but the reference page (on about.com) says 8ms... which is it anyone? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.152.114.136 (talk) 00:25, 19 February 2007 (UTC).
I believe the 2008 M3 will have DSG as an option
