Talk:Dimitri Tsafendas

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[edit] Torture

Beefart says: I am uncomfortable when a claim is made that a man was tortured when no evidence or reference is provided. Does anyone else have a view on this? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Captainbeefart (talk • contribs) .

Refracted pending citation: "Tsafendas was tortured terribly during his imprisonment" Mikker ... 23:51, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Good, good. However, by the same token (NPOV) if the man was tortured, then the world ought to know about it. Anyone have a reference, dudes? Captainbeefart 00:10, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Can't find anything on google... Mikker ... 00:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Murder

"...Under the apartheid regime's laws, having been charged with murder, Tsafendas was given a cell on death row in Pretoria Central Prison..." This is loaded terminology. Tsafendas would have been convicted for murder in any other country as well. He also did do lots of damage to South Africa by murdering a very able leader.

Beefart says: I agree in part with the above. The sentence that is quoted has long bothered me becaue it is ambiguous. We should try to rewrite it to make it factual and neutral. Remember though, that Tsafendis was not convicted of anything. He was found to be insane. An insane man can kill but, in law, he cannot murder. He would certainly have been TRIED in any other country. As to the abilities of Verwoerd and what would have happened in South Africa had he survived: I'll let that one go through to the keeper....Captainbeefart 11:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)