User talk:DiamondDragon

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(I didn't get the thingy above when I joined, so I gave myself one XP)

[edit] Re: your edit to Gaia Online

Hello. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Otherwise, people might consider your edits to be vandalism. Thank you. -- DroEsperanto 02:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

About AFK/BTK edit, they are both hats in Gaia. AFK looks like a white cat, BTK a white dog. BTK hat is based on the AFK hat like OMFG hat is based on OMG hat. So, actually, it's both.Spriteless 20:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't quite see how this is relevent, sorry. Heh. Care to clarify?—DroEsperanto 00:42, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
I didn't put that there- Spriteless justified the change he made after I reverted it... He changed the BTK on the article to AFK, and I though it was wrong, so I reverted it. And then he explained it all above your post. I don't mind really now, but he didn't change it back after my revert, so I just let it go- even if there was nothing to let go... DiamondDragon contact 01:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hell.com

Hell.com is a complex site that constantly evolves, whose cryptic nature is the very reason that keeps you coming back. What I wrote was relevant to the site about a year ago (or whenever I made the entry), after spending a decent amount of time looking into it -- though i wont explain now, its too complex. The site is actually very strange; a friend of mine signed up four years ago, got an email one day inviting him to a chat room which he went to; there there were various people, none with any idea about what needed to be done, or any person who actually knew anything.

thats about all I can say to help.

--DragonFly31 02:44, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


I'm sure people have tried - personally i think it is just a clever site designer who uses your curiosity to keep you coming back... Nothing more.--DragonFly31 15:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I have added a useful link on the cult section, the site reveals many hidden areas of final.org as well as all available keywords for the chat zone. The owner of the site is a guy named beggs, if you type in google beggs hell.com the site that I posted is the first one of the results. I tracked violet thanks to the conversation I found on beggs site and thanks to the list that is posted in Halo's profile which shows that violet logged in as violet | livejournal. I found Halo's MySpace profile when I first visited Kenneth's MySpace profile. If you look into Angel's profile you will see that Halo has left a few messages, one of them talks about cygnenoir.com. I have personally witnessed how these users control the chat enviorment, like changing font color and size. They are also able to rewind the conversations, avoid getting listed in the login list and even block the chat rooms.

I hope this links work for reference. Scm2k6 02:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe it isnt such a good idea to put their link on the "members" external links. I wouldnt assume that the chat users are members of hell.com, as far as we know they could be just hackers who managed to find a way in or took advatange of glitches and bugs in order to contro lthe chat enviorment to their advantage. What do you think? Scm2k6 08:40, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

i doubt chat users are hackers the found a way to interact with the environment -- there would be no point and it's a rather strange assumption to make. The more likely reason is they are active members of the site and are you are beginning to find what you are looking for.--DragonFly31 13:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)



well I still wouldn't assume they are hell.com members. I still think they could be either members or curious hackers. In beggs site we can even read the word "hacking" in the dig records script he wrote "beggs(on:shiva in:~/hacking/hell)> dig hell.com". And he even states the following :

"There are over 1000 visuals here, divided into three categories; transition screens, visuals hosted at final.org, and visuals hosted at medialounge.org. When *I first started to look for the backgrounds* I did it by trial and error. It quickly became apparent that there where a large number of these files and that to find them all by trial and error would take too long. *I played around with a shell script* for a few days to automate the process using the URLs I knew worked and a few a knew that did not work. After a few days of playing around with the script to get it right I ran it and walked away. *Five days later this is the complete list of sites which it found.*"

"When I get a chance I will try to *find* all the sound files and list them here as well. If anyone has the time and Patience to try to categorize these visuals by the worlds they belong to I would be happy to post the results here. Just e-mail me."

"I used the same script as was used to automate the discovery of the visuals with a few trivial modifications of the directory structure to find the sounds. So it is very possible that there are more sounds awaiting discovery -- I Have not searched very hard."

The truth is we do not know for sure who these people are. So adding their links on the members area are just assumptions that perhaps should not be done. That is why I stated that the relation between these individuals and hell.com is unclear.

Any thoughts on this?

Scm2k6 01:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


Yes I agree that Entropy and Zuper! are members. Thats for sure. I remember I saw a page that had a list of all the members of hell.com waaay back. I wish I had saved it.

Scm2k6 02:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


Another reason why I think its not such a good idea to put the links there is because seeing that someone who probably hacked a part of hell.com is on that list would probably piss off kenneth aronson and the people who we know for a fact that are real members of the site.

Scm2k6 02:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

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