User talk:Dgrant

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Hello and Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place. --mav

Thanks! --dgrant

Dave,

After your comments on Talk:Severe acute respiratory syndrome, I'm guessing that your latest edit to Severe acute respiratory syndrome (about "professional discrimination" against nurses) is a parody, an attempt to discredit the racial discrimination section. I'm curious if you'd be kind enough as to clarify whether or not this hunch is correct. If it is, perhaps you deserve credit for being credit for being clever, so we should preserve your section on the talk page, even if it can't stay in the main article. If it is not a parody, on the other hand, do you have a reference about this? Being a healthcare worker probably is more problematic thanks to SARS, though I could not find the specific claims you mentioned with a google search. --Ryguasu 04:57 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)

Ryguasu: thanks for the reply. You are clever as well... Yes it is a joke. I will remove it myself and stick it on "talk", unless you've already done it. The parody could have been seen in a few ways, but I just thought of an interesting side to it...if anything, the people that one should stay away from the most are actually doctors and nurses. Because technically they are the only ones in the hospitals in the somewhat-quarantined areas. But my original point was just to make up a little story to mimic the racism one. The fact that it doesn't come up on Google like you said, raises another point: just because something is on google (or covered by the media) does it make it wikipedia-worthy? If I hear something from my friend John why can't his opinion be put on wikipedia? In my mind I don't seperate media from average people very much...the media IMHO sucks nowadays and turn little things into big things. What I'm implying is, I think the racism comments were probably made by one outspoken chinese person and the media went to town with it because it makes good headliens. Anyways, thanks for the constructive discussion. It's been interesting. dave 05:15 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)


Actually I just thought of something. It's a bit childish, but I was curious how long it would take for someone (other than you) to notice the "profession discrimination" section. This article has pretty heavy activity, and no one has stepped in and deleted it. But to play that game would be childish so I'll just take it off. dave 05:18 Apr 7, 2003 (UTC)

Dave,

Thanks for your note on my talk page. I think your latest rewrite improved the section quite a bit. One thing that remains a mystery to me is why only Canada seems to be under discussion. The potential for racism here seems global, and Canadians certainly don't tend to strike me as more racist than anyone else. --Ryguasu 01:36 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)


hehe, yeah that is interesting, I think it might just be because that was were some chinese people said something about it, and then maybe it snowballed from there, thanks in part to the media. I noticed in the past few days that the US media started covering it, but like you said only about the Canada racism. Yeah I don't think we (canadians) are more racist. Maybe it was because Toronto has a lot of chinese (400,000) or something like that, probably a lot of which are from Hong Kong (like in Vancouver). And also because there are 10 deaths here so far, which is why people might be more on edge than say in the U.S. dave 03:34 Apr 10, 2003 (UTC)

Hi, Dave,

My thanks, too, for your contributions to the SARS page. My own theory is that Canada serves as a convenient scapegoat for other countries. People project their own shortcomings onto Canada, which is after all a country few people know anything about. Opposition to the seal hunt, for example, was strongest in the States during the Vietnam war, and strongest in the UK during periods in which the British Army was most active in Northern Ireland. I've never managed to get a grant to assess this theory, though.

The section has been shaped up, I think. It still perhaps leans a bit toward views like mine, but I have moderated my view a bit. on the whole, though, I'm surprised at the lack of anti-Chinese sentiment in Toronto. The characteristic Torontonian oblivious to everything except making money, I guess Jfitzg.

Thanks for removing the statement about the first mosque in Canada. My source was the London Free Press which, as I'm sure you know, is no source at all. Shoulda known better. It sounds like one of those local myths which are widely cited without authentication -- like the story of Toronto being the most culturally diverse city in the world. Jfitzg

And thanks for the note. I'll try to be more conscientious about including comments. The page has piqued my interest in the history of the city I grew up in, so I'll be doing further research, but not in the Free Press.Jfitzg
Cool. I grew up in B.C., and I live in Waterloo now, but my girlfriend is in London, and I go there on weekends. So I don't know it very well, but I'm a history buff. Please if you have any friends in London, forward them the Wikipedia link. It needs some more authentic information from locals. dave
I'm there a lot, too, and have been trying to get locals to contribute. Incidentally, I put adhesive tape in the industries/products list because 3M makes it there. The economy boomed during the recent security alert in the States. According to the undependable Free Press, London manufactures all the 3M duct tape for North America and Europe. I'll leave it up to you whether it should be restored, though, since you've been taking a more careful approach to the article than I have.Jfitzg
Ok, I'll add it back in then. Sorry, I knew there was a 3M Medical division in London, and I also know that 3M is famous for tape, so I thought someone just "put 2 and 2 together" and guessed that they made tape. Well it turned out you had obviously done your research. Thanks. dave

Dave, I removed the "n" you added at the Arrhenius equation, see the Talk:Arrhenius equation to see why. jbc

The previous way was designed so that Mav and gang could add in a picture like how Oxygen and Carbon are. --PY

Hi, Dave. I left a comment about POV and NPOV opinions of VIA Rail at Talk:London, Ontario. I won't be hurt if the comment doesn't go back. What I thought would be first to come out was my description of the major Western Ontario crops -- it seemed to me to have some relevance to London but I don't know if anyone else would agree. The article is shaping up famously. London seems to be one of the major centres of Western civilization -- seriously, it has been influential well beyond what you would expect of a city its size and the article shows it. Jfitzg

I just wanted to mention, I haven't been on VIA since I was 12 or so, and I've never taken a Greyhound bus to or from London...but I don't recall there being overwhelming complaints about VIA. I mean, there is general complaining, like there always is about any transportation system...isn't it faster than the bus though, even if it is more expensive? Adam Bishop 21:51 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I decided that even if my comment was NPOV it's unnecessary, so it can stay out. As for the relative merits of the train and the bus, they're scheduled to arrive in the same time, but the bus actually does arrive in that time, and usually earlier (it has the advantage of being able to leave as soon as the bus is full). To be fair, I haven't ridden VIA in a dozen years or so, and perhaps there's been a massive turnaround in service. Since they're as starved for cash as they ever were, though, I doubt it. Their big problem is shortage of equipment. Jfitzg

Hi!
I don't know if you, who originates from there, is as impressed by BC as I have been, when visiting from the European continent. Anyway, if you say lesbian's can't be called dikes, then I think you are better informed than Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. :-)) I'm sorry for the extra work I and User:Efghij caused you.
-- Ruhrjung 17:09 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes BC was nice. The dike/dyke thing was no big deal. I'm just a perfectionist unfortunately... dave

Thanks for your help on Wikipedia:Sites that use Wikipedia as a source. I am glad I'm not the only one taking the initiative here. Base on my google research so far, it looks like we may have our work cut out for us. MB 15:06 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I'm sure interest will pick up on this page and reach a critical mass eventually. I haven't looked at the /Temp page your referred to yet, but I'll have a look. dave 15:18 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Just FYI, I would perfer you put responses to me on my talk page, b/c that is where I (and most wikipedians) expect to see them. I don't really have the time to watch everyone's talk page for a response is all. MB 20:37 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind that I moved the page to Wikipedia:Sites that use Wikipedia for content. I thought is was more appropriate, considering what we are using it for. We can create a different page for pages that use use as a source (although I have come across a lot!), since linking is included in this, but not in sites that use content. MB 21:20 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

If you are still interested in the definition of dike (geology of course...), have a look at the page after the weekend. I'm working on it. Short definition: tabular body of intrusive igneous rock, ´discordant (i.e. not according) to the orientation of the intruded rock. Pipes of volcanoes usually are dikes. Muriel Gottrop 13:40, 30 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hi Dave;

About getting work in Korea- I did it by word of mouth. A friend was working here, needed more employees from abroad, and put the word out. I volunteered to come. If you're interested, there are a few places online for you to look for work that have good reputation, and areas to chat up people currently working here. I won't clog your page with this info now, just write me and I'll hook you up. Or email me (better) at kimberlyhogg@hotmail.com Kim Hogg

I posted this at Wikipedia talk:Sites that use Wikipedia for content but you didn't respond, so I am posting it here:

I've made a few changes to Wikipedia:Copyrights in anticipation of updating our copyright notice on the bottom of the page. I purpose that the new notice read "All text is available under the terms of the GFDL. See Wikipedia:Copyrights for details." Right now the link at the bottom links to a page which redirects to Wikipedia:Copyrights, but being that the GFDL is intimidating to most to read, people are less likely to click on the current link and read the terms of copying.

I would like some feedback before purposing this on the mailing lists. Thanks. (Please post replies to my talk page) MB 18:03, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)

I have nominated you for adminship at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. I hope you accept the nomination. Read Wikipedia:Administrators for what it means to be an admin. { MB | マイカル } 14:32, Aug 27, 2003 (UTC)

Poof! You've got sysop rights. Use them well. As your first act, let me suggest that you update Wikipedia:Administrators to reflect your new status. --Uncle Ed 19:31, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Congrats. Use them well, use them sparingly. { MB | マイカル } 14:52, Sep 3, 2003 (UTC)

RE: The RIAA article -- Since that talk page says it's protected (Why, BTW? It does not give a reason in the history of when and why, especially when the main article keeps getting vandalized and is NOT protected?), but I wanted to tell you that I think it's a good thing that you put it on the front page. No need to be sorry at all. I think if we truly believe in this project, we should be daring and have faith in it (i.e. any news worthy topic will be searched for anyway, and thus will need to stand on its own merits, this way at least it was brought to our attention). The front page listing brought about tweeking, which is a big plus in this case, right? I personally hope that some form of compromise bearing a good deal of resembelence to NPOV will naturally result from repeated editing. I do not know that it needs to be split into one article on the organization and one on their lawsuits. What would one even call that lawsuit article? P2P lawsuits? Anyway, that's my two cents. What do you think? Congrats on your sysopiness BTW.  :) -- Paige 18:43, 10 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Greetings, good to meet another Canuck I haven't seen around yet (and a sysop no less). Two things regarding Dorval vs. PET airport:

  1. I wouldn't have moved the page until 1 Jan, when the change of name officially takes effect.
  2. Please use the "move" command when moving a page. This preserves the history, as opposed to simply cutting and pasting which leaves all the history on the original page and makes life difficult. Come 1 Jan, I'll delete the current Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport and move Montreal Dorval International Airport there comme il faut.

Thanks, - Montréalais 01:35, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] blanking

Could you refrain from blanking pages? Either keep or list on vfd. Even after blanking, the link to the page stays blue. People will still click on it expecting to see something. There is nothing wrong with keeping stubs. --Jiang 04:48, 11 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Look at each article by itself. I'm not going to wank the country template off all the country articles just because a good number of countries dont have templates applied, etc. There's no rule that says like content has to grow at the same rate. We can't expect all the premier articles to pop up at once. It works one at a time.

Stubs are not useless. Its a start in content. If it is a genuine stub, it will say something as opposed to nothing. I personally don't like stubs, but I see no point in deleting them. Besides, it's against the current policy. --Jiang 20:43, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Not if they're sub-stubs it's not. Angela

[edit] From VfD

Sorry to dump this here dave, but VfD was 92kb and I had to do something with it! It seems the point was proven, so I guess this doesn't need to be listed anymore. I summarised the discussion of the stubs issue on the Village pump too and moved the original to Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy. Angela 23:19, Oct 16, 2003 (UTC)

  • Thomas Dufferin Pattullo. Nearly empty article, should be deleted. dave 21:47, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. He was a Premier of a Canadian province, it can be expanded. RickK 22:57, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep, improvable. Axlrosen 23:07, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Don't delete, fix. Donnie Ng 23:12, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep, please. I saw it already and marked it on my watchlist: I've the intention of fleshing it out by week's end. As it stands, the one sentence of true information (though sparse) is better than a blank page, though I plan to improve upon it. Jwrosenzweig 23:14, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. I am puzzled: why did you create it, if you were just going to list it here? -- Cyan 23:30, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
      • It was an experiment of sorts...I had deleted another B.C. premier's page, which was a short-page like this one, but User:Jiang objected on the grounds that it was against the Deletion policy; however I disagreed. I decided to see what the administrators thought, by creating one of my own and putting it here. It looks like I am in the minority... dave 00:14, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
      • As it stood before Delirium improved it, I would have no objection to instant deletion on the grounds of it being a sub-stub, although I would be more likely to redirect it somewhere the information already existed like British Columbia to avoid people complaining about its deletion. Angela 02:32, Oct 14, 2003 (UTC)
      • Although you bring up a good point Cyan. If I create a sub-stub/shortpage like this, then realize that I don't have time right now to make the article longer, shouldn't I be able to just delete it? It's just common sense to me. Wikipedia needs a stronger policy on deletion. Whenever a stub gets put on here, some person just adds one line and tada! it's no longer a stub. Pretty soon people are going to figure this out and every time they need some articles created they'll just post them on this page! Sub-stubs should be instantly deleted IMHO, as all people can agree, they can be re-created in a second. Sub-stubs are a waste of time, you click on a link, wait for it to come up, and are extremely disapointed when it does come up, as it is only one line of information you already knew. dave 15:08, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)
    • Keep. Wartortle 16:45, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I have not found any articles on EncycloZine.com from Wikipedia that do not link to the GNUFDL or to Wikipedia and to the current article. If you could cite some I would appeciate it. Fred Bauder 14:19, 24 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I took that pic myself last week! Cheers Poor Yorick 09:44, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I noticed you added the Jean Chretien link to the homepage, which is nice, but you didn't put any comment for the changelog and you also didn't bump of the last article, you bumped off the 2nd last article. Why? dave 05:37, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I felt of the four news worthy articles listed, Mikhail Khodorkovsky was the least relevant. That news line should be based on relevance, in my opinion. Take for example how we had War on Iraq on for months at a time, while circulating other news stories. The war was judged to be most relevant, and was kept while others circulated. - user:zanimum

Hi, regarding the pics of Cardamum, I got them from the french wikipedia. It looks as though the user who uploaded them made the photographs himself. I'll notify you once I've contacted him. In the meantime I'll transfer his other pics over to the english wikipedia. Cheers, snoyes 21:15, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

[edit] medicinal herbs

Hi, Dgrant. I like your List of medicinal herbs, and wondered whether you would have the expertise to start off an article about herbal medicine? I have been working on some wildflower pages lately, and I keep creating links to this non-existent article, and I don't know enough about it to begin to write it myself. There is a bit about it in folk medicine, but it deserves an article to itself. It will be tricky to write because there is liable to be a cavalry charge of hobby horses once it gets going. seglea 06:58, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Hi Dave,

As you suggested, i've added two new sections to the herbs and spices project template. English is not my mothertonge, please check the wording/spelling. Also consider weather these paragraphs are well paced or should be placed elsewhere in the article. Thanks for your answers to my questions. User:Lady Tenar

[edit] Barberry

Do you have a reference for barberry being used as a spice? It is used medicinally and for its fruit, but as a spice would be a new one for me. WormRunner 06:30, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hmm. I can see how that might grade into "spice" from "tart fruit". I would have listed it among fruits instead, but both places will do. WormRunner 07:06, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sweet woodruff

You couldn't find this?? WormRunner 07:33, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi, there have been some suggestions that we need to start cleaning out the old requests posted to Wikipedia:Peer review. You are receiving this because you have posted one or more requests that have been there a long time. When you have a moment, please check it out and remove the request(s), along with any related material, if you have received adequate feedback. Thanks! -- Wapcaplet 23:20, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse

I just noticed this in my watchlist:

(diff) (hist) . . Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse; 15:18:42 . . Dgrant (Talk)
(Changed language about Karpinski. I think you were misquoting.
She was never told by anyone to treat them like dogs.
In fact she wasn't in charge of interrogations.)

Could I ask about your source for that, as I'm certain I've heard a quote of Karpinski saying that the prisoners should be treated like dogs and this article on BBC News Online would seem to suggest that's the case too. — OwenBlacker 17:15, Jun 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thinkpad photo

Hi, you left a note on Wikipedia:Requested_pictures saying you could upload a hassle-free image for the Thinkpad article and to remind you about it if you forgot... reminder issued :-) Lupin 12:44, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 65.27.75.56 block

I unblocked it: there's no point to blocking it after the vandalism spree is over. —No-One Jones 21:49, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] RFC pages on VfD

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:35, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Hi from a flying Brookie

Brookie flying by from England reviewing user pages and saying hello - no cool photo of you though - why not get one or borrow mine and add a beard! Brookie 22:32, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania 2006

This is a reminder to all that there will be a meeting of Vancouver area Wikipedians on Saturday, Sept. 24, 2005 at 1:00 p.m. for all interested persons. We will meet in McDonald's at 897 Granville St. and Smithe in downtown Vancouver. This site was chosen simply because its central location and easy recognizability would make it easier for people who have never seen each other to find each other. Please feel free to bring additional interested people.

There are two questions to be discussed:

  1. Is there any interest for starting a Vancouver (or BC) chapter of Wikipedia?
  2. Is there enough interest and ability to make a Vancouver bid for Wikimania 2006?

Eclecticology 06:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User Categorisation

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Ontario page as living in or being associated with Ontario. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Ontario for instructions.--Rmky87 02:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Image:Czochralski.JPG

"No copyright on site whatsoever...is this okay?"

The answer is, not really. The image was tagged as having no proper licensing information by another user, placing it into a dubious state. Due to our criteria for speedy deletion, such images are deleted 7 days after the tag is added.

Fortunately, the diagram was simple enough for me to understand it and to create a free replacement for it; Image:Czochralski Process.png. I've now replaced the image in the article with this free version. If you have no objections, I'd like to delete the potentially unfree version you uploaded and settle the matter. Please let me know if this is acceptable. Rob Church Talk | FAHD 01:12, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Canada

Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Roberta Langtry

Hi, I noticed you removed a dead link, Roberts Langtry . Please refer to What to do when a link goes dead. I have reverted this edit on your behalf. If you have made similar errors on other articles, please revert on your own. Clerks 14:03, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

If none of those strategies succeed, do not remove the inactive reference, but rather record the date that the original link was found to be inactive — even inactive, it still records the sources that were used, and it is possible hard copies of such references may exist, or alternatively that the page will turn up in the near future in the Internet Archive, which deliberately lags by six months or more. When printed sources become outdated, scholars still routinely cite those works when referenced.


[edit] Richmond, British Columbia

An article you created, Richmond, British Columbia has been selected for the Vancouver Portal Showcase Article. Mkdwtalk 11:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

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