Talk:Devamrita Swami
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[edit] Disciples
Should we be building this section or removing it? Seems slightly irrelevant, as it could get rather lengthy but doesn't actually add much to Devamrta Swami's encylopedia page Dwayne Kirkwood
[edit] verifiable.
Break things up into sections, dont just delete whole chunks of information for whatever reason. If its verifiable its got a right to exist.
[edit] 1974-1994
Someone has to explain Devamrtas history from 1974-1994. 20 years is not an irrellevant detail. A good deal of his pass times were with Kirtananda at New Vrindaban, thats not irrellevant.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a devotee propaganda machine.
Also does anyone know if the complete archive of GBC resolutions are avaliable online? Seems their old website went offline, taking a vital part of ISKCON history with it. Bukti 08:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Scandal Section
[edit] Devamrta or Devamrita
Currently the page is under the heading Devamrta, with a redirect on Devamrita. However, recently most of the Devamrta's have been changed to Devamrita. For consistancy, we should go with either one or the other. In a letter dated 29th of July 1975, Prabhupada refers to Devamrta Swami - "I also accept the following disciples as twice born brahmanas. Devamrta dasa brahmacari and Gopiparanadhana das brahmacari." Though there is a lot more cases where it's spelt Devamrita. Thoughts? Dwayne Kirkwood 21:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
- deva = demigod amrta = deathless / immortal ~ http://vedabase.org/m/mrta amrita = nectarean. Devamrita = nectar of the demigods. It's a reference to the amrita that was churned from the milk ocean, delivered by the Dhanvantari avatara. Devamrita Swami took sannyasa from Harikesa Swami.
- btw does anyone know his birth name? Jay something i think, cant remember tho. Bukti 02:39, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
The name on his passport is Jay Matsya.
Bukti 08:15, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- [1] GBC profile for "Devamrta" Swami Bukti 06:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- im still not convinced either way. Maybe he was initiated as devamrta, then kirtananda changed it to devamrita? Bukti 07:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
see my note above
- Perhaps it is just Devamrita. The only solid evidence for Devamrta is the letter from Prabhupada, but as you state, there is 'another' Devamrta, so it could have been him. Dwayne Kirkwood 18:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
It's a question of romanization. Devamrita is the preferred spelling, because it's correct in terms of English. Devamrta is what it looks like if you try to write it using strict equivalence, but without the dot under the r. (--josh) It's a question of writing a Sanskrit name using english letters, nothing more. No special significance. It's like nama, nam, and naam. There are multiple ways to render Indic language words into Latin alphabet.
What is his ethnicity? 212.113.23.124 16:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)