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Listen, I'm not understanding why you are so hung up on deleting the crack smoking image. I already maked it as released, removed the copyright, etc. What else do you want? You know, you could be a little nicer to people who don't spend as much time on Wikiepedia as you.


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Meelar (talk) 05:23, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't find every new user. But I check Special:Recentchanges fairly often, and if I see someone without a talk page, I welcome them. I'm going to AU as well; my name's Dan Miller, I'm a junior. Nice to meet you, and best wishes, Meelar (talk) 18:24, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

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hola

Hi, I've been reading your comments on the Shining Path talk page with great interest. Glad to have you around. FWIW, I have my doubts about this repeated assertion that SL had next to no public support. Not that I believe it did have a huge base, but rather because it reflects the unwillingness of rightwing Peruvians to acknowledge in any way that the group might have been fighting social injustice, and that it might have had even some public support for its aims if not its means. For them, it was a law & order problem, and it was solved with military means, period. I once suggested on the Fujimori Talk page that Peruvians had gotten rid of SL but not addressed the underlying circumstances which led to its emergence, and this was met with howls of indignation. Anyway, I hope you stick around. -- Viajero 12:06, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi again, I have a couple books here on SL and expanding that article has been on my to do list for a while, but I keep getting distracted with other things. If you have interest in expanding the MRTA entry, that would be a great idea and I would strongly encourage you to do so. There is no secret recipe for avoiding conflict here, but if you cite your sources, you should be ok, and other editors will support you if they agree with what you are doing. When I wrote up the Japanese embassy hostage crisis awhile back, I added as many citations as I could. (That article came about because one of the Peruvian kids refused to allow us to include a photo of AF standing next to the dead Emerretistas after the raid, as you may seen from the Fujimori talk page.) Up to now, no one has challenged any of the material.
One practical matter: there are various ways to cite external sources. In that article, I used the simplest system, external URLs ([]s) at the relevant points, but this has its drawbacks. Someday I will fix it so it conforms more closely with established practices, but the technical support for footnotes etc is still evolving. Check out Wikipedia:Cite sources. The citation templates are optional; personally I find them a PITA. -- Viajero 09:58, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)]

Greetings from Messhermit

Hello there. I have read some of your contributions to the Shining Path article, at it seems to me that (even that I don't agree with it sometimes) we can work toguether in order to achieve NPOV articles in Peruvian Related topics. I will really apreciate if you could help me to improve the Alan García one. It appears that some users have forgot that the worst years of Violence in Peru was during the administration of this president or have failed to state it in his article. Anyways, keep in touch. Cheers Messhermit 15:29, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

"stalinist"

Does anyone ever self-identify as "stalinist"? Is this term ever used non-pejoratively? The issue has come with regard to Pablo Neruda. Please see the Talk page and the recent page history of that article. -- Viajero 11:37, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Carlos Castaño Gil

Carlos Castaño Gil's given name is Carlos. His surname is Castaño Gil. He is often refered to as "Carlos Castaño." It is not correct to change the category links around to make his name fall under the G's in alphabetical order. Descendall 06:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing this out to me, I had no idea. --AI 02:45, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Ouster by coup

Hi. You have placed a vfd tag on Category:Ouster by coup, without listing it on Wikipedia:Categories for deletion. It would be nice to debate it. I for one would like to keep this category, perhaps with a renaming. Punkmorten 11:08, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

User:Sirkumsize

It's this guy, so it would probably be the only penis talk he's gonna get for a long time. You might enjoy this. Nohat 05:01, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Nohat, I'm happy that my pix, story and sexual experience level amuses you. The next time I need a blow I'll come to you. Sirkumsize 01:22, 24 September 2005 (UTC)


Puka Llacta

I asked a question about the proper translation of Puka Llacta from Quechua on the page you created. I wonder if you could shed some light on it for me. Thanks Descendall 08:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I think you know more than me, so go with your instict. Change the translation in the article to "country" instead of "city".--AAAAA 02:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

AFD nominations

Please don't adopt ComCat's terminology. It's not helpful. Please read Wikipedia:Requests for comment/ComCat. Rather than baldly saying that something is "non-notable" or "unencyclopaedic", hyperlink to the notability criteria that you are applying and explain why the article doesn't satisfy those criteria. (For example: "This author does not satisfy the WP:BIO criteria because xe doesn't appear to have published anything.") Similarly, please don't conflate notability with verifiability. If you have looked but cannot find any sources at all for something, it is unverifiable. Uncle G 12:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Award

Hi Descendall,

Thanks a lot for your award, I'll put it on my user page :). -- Ze miguel 09:40, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

The 2R Rule

I've never seen anyone so passionate about the spelling of the word "guerrilla"! You've corrected some twenty pages where I made that mistake. Lesson learned. Thank you! :-) Arre 16:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Bolivian Presidential Elections

Yeah, I just created a little stub for the article here at Bolivian Presidential Election, 2005. Feel free to add to it, at the moment it is just a stub.-Jersey Devil 21:28, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Shining Path

Those were good comments you recently made at Talk:Shining Path. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry that "crap" might offend some, but I find that "crap" sometimes offends me. That's why I changed the "shit". --Mista-X 01:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Having people come to your defense, how "civil" you are, etc. is more important then the content of the article and seeking the truth? Typical. And I won't get banned for saying "shit" and "crap", I am familiar with wikipedia policy, but thanks. --Mista-X 01:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
"For example, are you really challanging that Maria Elena Moyano was killed by the Shining Path?"
I don't have to believe it nor disbelieve it in order to demand a source.
" Are you challanging the fact that at least some Peruvian Marxists were anti-sendero? You have placed {{fact}} in the article so many times, and for things that would seem to be so obvious to the causual reader, that you have to understand it will take a ton of effort to dig up a source on everything."
It might take a "ton" of effort, or not much at all. And is it even noteworth if some crusty "Communist" Party with 4 members that sits in an air conditioned office Lima publishing papers disagrees with PCP? Does this make them "anti" or just critical? Would it be so hard to cite a publication? Most "communists" are pretty open about their criticisms of other "communists", so why is this a problem? I don't think that we should assume anything is obvious either, this is how myths are perpetuated as truths. --Mista-X 03:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
"I just don't understand how you think it's even possible to cite some of the material"

Then I don't understand why you think it should belong in the article. If it can not be cited then we have no way of verifying it, do we?

"You challange the fact that the Communist Party of Peru was against capitalism. What do you want me to cite?"

I didn't challenge that PCP is anti-capitalist in Marxist terms of historical materialism, I challenged that they are against small merchants. Merchants and market economies predate capitalism. You had a market for goods under capitalism. Also, I'm sure that PCP supports national bourgeois revolution against imperialist domination, if their was such a progressive bourgeois in Peru. Therefore, they would have to support a temporary stage of capitalism. I was challenging the misrepresentation and obscurity of it.

"Furthermore, it certainly is noteworthy that the vast majority of Peruvian Marxists were against the Shining Path."

I'm sure the vast majority of these so-called "Marxists" were/are against each other as well. if they all has some consensus or block against PCP, it should be easy to reference this.

"Is it noteworthy that the Shining Path pretty much destroyed the democratic left?"

Then it should be explained and backed up with sources. You remind me of a Trotksyist though; thinking you can prepare the future and liking very much to criticize everyone else. In the end you support the bourgeois "democratic" route, good for you! --Mista-X 23:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Please don't mark major reverts as minor edits. --Descendall 17:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Why not? --Mista-X 23:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Ollanta Humala

Hey, I've been doing alot of stuff for the Ollanta Humala article. It seems you are interested in this kind of South American/Andean poltical articles and I thought you'd be interested in checking it out. Can't seem to find much on his early life. Anyway later.--Jersey Devil 19:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales edit

Please don't do edits like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jimbo_Wales&diff=36930458&oldid=36911809. - Akamad 11:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I must say I find that difficult to believe. - Akamad 11:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I just felt that replacing his photo with Hitler's is not something that is going to make him smile. - Akamad 11:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Martha Chavez

Yeah, with regards to Martha Chavez it was on her page that she was from Cambio 90/Nueva Mayoría so I put it on her infobox. The reason you saw that name on the infobox was because I had c&ped it from another page I had made and forgot to delete it (my bad). Anyway, keep an eye out on the Ollanta Humala page, an IP keeps on making what I would consider POV edits and is doing an edit war their. I put it up on the Administrators incident board but no Admin has done anything to the IP for the reverts.-Jersey Devil 02:24, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

The article is about Martha Chavez, not about what's going to happen (politically and legaly) with ex-president Fujimori. Spanish Wikipedia article's regarding Fujimorismo are far less biased in that sence. Messhermit 15:09, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Shining Path

Thanks for helping out with citation. - Jmabel | Talk 07:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments on Shining Path. I am totally unfamiliar with wikipedia citation guidelines, so I'm sure I didn't do a very good job with it. You seem to have a very good handle on Cite.php, so if you see any mistakes I made, correct away. I'd really like to make that article a lot better. I've read a lot of books and articles on the Shining Path, probaby all that are available in English, and I'd be nice to use them to add citations to the article. I think that it is good as is, but there is a lot of room for improvement. --Descendall 12:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
You did fine. On a technical level, Cite.php is so easy to use; that's its big advantage over earlier approaches. As for the rest of it: as far as I'm concerned, if a citation is unambiguous, that's 90% of the battle. We don't have a strong consensus on a particular citation style, and probably never will. - Jmabel | Talk 20:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Guerrillas

I'm embarrassed to have made that spelling mistake. Thanks for catching and correcting it. Cheers, -Will Beback 10:51, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Andrés Avelino Cáceres

The Wikiproject:Peru current collaboration is on Andrés Avelino Cáceres. I've already gotten it out of the stub stage but wouldn't mind some help on it. Feel free to add info on the page if you have time and are interested. Thanks, bye.-Jersey Devil 22:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia in Tetum

  • Help building a Wikipedia in Tetum, the national language of East Timor. Give your contribution to the improvement of its test page -- Regards, 195.23.53.121 11:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC) Manuel de Sousa

Request for edit summary

Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 37% for major edits and 10% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits outside the Wikipedia, User, Image, and all Talk namespaces.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear inpolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 03:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Abu Ghraib censorship forks

I went a few steps further. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. — Feb. 17, '06 [01:39] <freakofnurxture|talk>

Seems to already be resolved. Kaldari 01:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

By the time I saw this it had already been deleted, but thanks for informing me of this. Jayjg (talk) 15:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Abu Ghraib

Reply hazy -- ask later. --Kizor 21:09, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You and other Wikipedians were quite thorough. I was able to add four - two were less spectacular ones from older batches, we had apparently missed them - plus an uncropped version of one. [1]

There's apparently a video - do we host those? Would it be overdoing this? --Kizor 10:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Input for next Wikiproject Collaboration

Seeing as we are almost done with the Andrés Avelino Cáceres collaboration and March is coming up. I'd thought that I should inform you and the other members of WP:Peru that you can add your thoughts on what you think the next project collaboration should be on at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Peru#Collaboration.--Jersey Devil 21:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Mario Bachand

Hi Descendall, I am new to Wikipedia, so I am not quite sure how to contact you. I suggest that you give your email address so that authors of articles you comment upon can reach you directly. I see that you made a "clean up" comment on my recent submission "Mario Bachand", suggesting there might be a copyright violation. Be assured that there is no such violation. The rights to my "Last Stop, Paris: the assassination of Mario Bachand and the death of the FLQ" (Toronto: Viking, 1998) have reverted to me. Other documents or records I have or will quote from or reproduce are in the public domain and properly referenced. By the way, do you have any particular knowledge of the FLQ or Mario Bachand that brought you to my article? Best wishes, Michael McLoughlin

Copyvios

With most copyvios, if they're fairly new, you can just put this tag {{db-copyvio|url=Whatever the website is}}, rather than going through the whole AFD thing. Makemi 06:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, I sympathise with you. I'll see if WP:AIV can do anything about it, if this guy has had enough warnings. Repeated copyvios are blockable. Makemi 06:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Attilas '74

Hi! The Attilas '74 situation was a little confusing. I came across the article in the CSD category. I saw the red CSD notice on the article, but not the grey AfD (I probably wasn't looking for an AfD notice since AfD and CSD should not be combined). So I just blanked the notices and copyvio, and replaced it with a sentence I wrote myself (however, I left the infobox). After I moved the article to the correct location, I checked the "What links here" and saw, to my surprise, that is was on AfD! Since I had addressed the AfD nomination concerns I thought speedy keep was a good idea. Normally for speedy keep I would contact the nominator first - but in this case I had already modified the article and the AfD was redundant.

Incidentally, I don't tend to believe in CSD A8 (An article that is a blatant copyright infringement and meets these parameters). I much prefer to immediately remove the copyvio material and replace it with a sentence of my own and a stub tag. If it is then non-notable it should go the AfD.--Commander Keane 08:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse reports/Gallery

I'm trying to add captions to as many of the photos as possible (at least where names can be found for those pictured). would you be able to give me a hand with that? there's a few American soldiers who's names I'm unsure of and I'm not sure where to look for deainee names. Thanks! Mike McGregor (Can) 20:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I kind of figured I might not be able to get all the prisoner's names, but I'm sure the names off all the soldiers involved are somewhere. I'll start picking through that salon site to see what I can find...Mike McGregor (Can) 23:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Terrorist article

The editor you were arguing with was User:Zephram Stark, who is infamous for sockuppeting, editing the Terrorism article disruptively, and insisting that we need a separate article on Terrorist. All of those issues have been rectified, but please be aware that he will create more sockpuppets. Jayjg (talk) 23:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Peru election

Hi, thanks for your comment, I initially replied on my talk page, but now I have more information. Since there are no governor races, I guess your friend's father is running for Congress. For Huancayo's Electoral District, Junín, Apoyo pollster predicted that Martha Acosta, Edgard Reymundo (UPP), Mario Monteverde (UN), Felix Ortega (APRA) and Ricardo Pando (AF) would take the 5 seats, but with no certainty. Hope that helps. --Gabbec 04:37, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The Hunger Project

Hello, Descendall - I would welcome the opportunity to discuss a truce in your recent revert war. You can reach me at info@thp.org Jcoonrod 11:50, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Following the Policies

  • Descendall:

Is there a way that we (Smeelgova, Descendall, Enkido, can go to Wikipedia Administrators to resolve the positively-biased one-sided view that Jcoonrod purports to keep posting up on The Hunger Project, and also complain about his repeated deletions both on the article and discussion pages? Smeelgova 21:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


Descendall - please note - there is no policy about editing discussion pages. Further there IS a policy about writing in a neutral point of view, only using authoritative sources (which the ones sited are not) and writing that is based on consensus (and you will only get consensus from me when citations are not false and misleading) I'm sure you would agree that the sources you are quoting do not claim to know anything about The Hunger Project's work or about the work of ending hunger and poverty in general. They have a totally different agenda - one which has its place of course - but not in a piece about The Hunger Project.

I will continue to edit material which I feel is inflammatory or personally insulting, as these are very fundamental to the wiki principles.Jcoonrod 15:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Request for mediation

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/(The Hunger Project)]], and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikipedical (talk • contribs).

  • I simply wanted to apologize for the manner in which the mediation notice appeared on your discussion page. I believe that this is the default code used, as Jcoonrod had started the initial mediation process and placed the mediation notice in the same exact fashion on my discussion page as well. Again, my apologies for the confusion, and thank you for notifying me of the situation.Smeelgova 02:53, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

RFAR

Quoting user --Jcoonrod, from my talk page :

I have lodged a RfAR against you at [[2]]--Jcoonrod 15:18, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

As stated in my response on --Jcoonrod's talk page, I would much rather debate the content of the article itself, rather than shift the focus to a personal debate around his and my various inappropriate actions over the past 3 years and 1 month, respectively. I admit to and apologize for any inappropriate behaviour that I have done, which is not related directly to debating the content and discussion surrounding the article The Hunger Project, and I would much rather move forward with the ongoing Mediation Process/Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/The Hunger Project, rather than skip directly to Arbitration/Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. Yours, Smeelgova 20:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom thing against you

I really don't know the proceedure for the ArbCom very well. I would very much like to offer my opinion on this whole matter, but I'm not sure how or when I can go about doing it, seeing as I am not a party to the whole matter. Let me know if I can write something on my own. --Descendall 23:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the interest. After looking through the Arbitration policies, it appears that you can simply add yourself to the Arbitration Request as another "involved party", at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. In this manner, you can then make a Statement, and participate in the evidence sections of the arbitration.Smeelgova 18:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

RFAR

I have added you to the THP arbitration, at [3], as per your request to offer your opinion on the matter.Smeelgova 20:57, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hunger

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hunger. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hunger/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hunger/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 20:33, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Shining Path, redux

Do you have any objection to my suggestion as to how to proceed? I couldn't tell from your remark. Obviously, for the first time we have a pro-Senderista who actually seems to be reasonably well-read and possibly genuinely working on the article. My guess is that we could get a much stronger article out of this in the end, though I realize that it will not be an easy process. - Jmabel | Talk 05:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Peru

Hey, interested in joining the Wikiproject Peru since you already post alot on Peruvian-related articles. For a long time I thought you were already a member until having looked over the participants list again. Anyway, it is up to you. See you around.--Jersey Devil 22:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Ouster by coup

Hi, I see you put this category up for deletion. This seems right to me because, whatever the possible value of the category, Ouster by coup isn't correct English (I presume Ousted by coup was what was intended). The history says the discussion was closed on 12th of August with no concensus but I can't find any record of the discussion. Have you a link to it? Thanks, Dlyons493 Talk 15:37, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I've had a short discussion with the closing admin User_talk:Kbdank71. Dlyons493 Talk 16:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Boston Tea Party

Howdy, I noticed that you and I seem to post in one or two articles dealing with progressive issues in political science/sociology. There's currently a debate beginning in Boston Tea Party as to whether the article should include the category [4]. It meets definitions set in the articles Terrorism and Definition of terrorism, however, there are several self-proclaimed patriots who watch BTP who refuse to recognise the fact. The simple criteria for terrorism generally seem to be intimidation or destruction of property in order to change public policy or public opinion while a state of war has not yet been declared. Some users would rather use recent acts of terrorism as a yardstick, rather than using a firm definition, and hence lose their ability to discuss matters calmly. Would you be able to pop in to the Talk page and join in the discussion? Thanks much, samwaltz 05:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hunger

This arbitration case is close and the decision has been published at the above link.

For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 14:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Martha Chavez

It seems that you are far more interested in having Viajero in the conversation. Needing some help to defend you arguments? I recommend that you stop that behavior, since it will create a huge mess in the article. Messhermit 19:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Ellis Duell

You may be interested in commenting, on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ellis Duell.Smeelgova 02:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Your Message

Very interesting, though as per the arbitration ruling I have kept to only referencing cited sources in full, blockquoted citation format. The reader can then go directly to the reputable source for more information if interested. We shall see what develops.Smeelgova 18:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you a terrorist?

  • I just read that you wrote this:

*Yes, because only Fox News refers to the group as Sendero Luminoso. Death to the old, fascist, bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary, rotten, semi-feudalist running dogs of imperialism! Long live the Communist Party of Peru, making People’s War to serve the Global Proletarian Revolution, which is profoundly liberating by creating the New Society! --Descendall 13:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Does the above mean that you really wish the death of anybody that doesn't think communism is good? Are you a communist terrorist?--AAAAA 05:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
    • A bit humor-impaired are we? AAAAA, clearly Descendall does not think only Fox News refers to the group as Sendero Luminoso. Which should give you a clue how to read the sentence that follows that. Descendall's humor can be a bit dry, but this is not a tricky one.
    • Descendall: in re your remark on my talk page: amusing. Perhaps a sequel: Aún otro sendero? - Jmabel | Talk 04:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

belated thanks

Thanks for sticking up for me on the talk page of Martha Chavez. By the look of it, Messhermit's grammar and spelling has (marginally) improved over the past year, but little else has changed.

Nice work of late on the Peru-related articles. Viajero | Talk 09:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Sendero Luminoso

This has to be my favorite part of this whole mess: As a Maoist organization, it strongly opposed all forms of capitalism {{fact}}. It's hard to assume good faith when things like that are being contested. --Descendall 07:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

And the senderistas are only sometimes called senderistas? It is exasperating. The thing is, I'm sure he's acting in good faith, to improve the article and remove bias, but he's also clearly pushing his POV. You are a better man than I was for going through his edit and trying to incorporate whatever legitimate concerns he had into the article. Hopefully this can be resolved without compromising the integrity of the article.--Cúchullain t/c 07:40, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Dude, I am so glad you found that. The best laugh I've had all night. Think we can use this as a source for how even Sendero Luminoso call themselves Sendero Luminoso?--Cúchullain t/c 08:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Mine's pretty weak too, but I'll ask someone to look at it.--Cúchullain t/c 22:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

What? Who told you?--Cúchullain t/c 21:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Banner

Right now just major cities, regions, Presidents, politicians, political parties, political pressure groups, governmental institutions, and key historical figures.--Jersey Devil 00:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

If you are willing to help, then indeed. All of the talk pages of the articles in these templates and category should have the banner.
Heh, it may surprise you but I don't think I've ever directly interacted with him...even though I have seen him around.--Jersey Devil 01:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Hehehe, that bear! [5]--Jersey Devil 05:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
What is that on the laptop! A rabbit? Hehehe...Anyway, if you want to talk off-topic you can always check me out here. I usually post there and prefer talking about off-topic stuff there instead of here. Anyway, thanks for helping me out with the banner. I'll see you around.--Jersey Devil 05:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

100 Stars on the US flag

Good point Descendall on the Robert Heft article, thank you. I have clarified the source with a Harvard footnote, and explained how the 100 stars were ironed on to the blue field. Caltrop 18:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Mexico

Hi, please have a look at edit conflicts between me and User:Rune.welsh. See Talk:Political_party#In_a_democracy.2C_can_only_a_electoral_body_be_a_party.3F. for an introduction. --Soman 11:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Nepal FAR

I have removed the Featured article review for Nepal because it is customary not to have FARs when the article is still mentioned in the main page. Please resubmit the FAR in four to five days. Joelito (talk) 17:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Consideration

Please avoid sniping at other users in edit comments [6]. When you have a beef with another user's edits it is usually nicer to leave them a message rather than potentially humiliate them in an edit comment. Thanks, Cleduc 03:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Almasakin, Abimael Guzman and Shining Path

  • Mr. Descendall: I am inclined to think that Almasakin is your SOCKPUPPET. How else would you have noted the comment I placed to Almasakin? Furthermore, your reaction was really low and you "accused" me of something that has absolutely no basis, while my question to your apparent sockpuppet was totally valid, since only Shining Path terrorists refer to this terrorist Abimael Guzman as "Presidente Gonzalo". Even if you are part or have been a member of Shining Path, or just simpatize with them, I still cannot understand why can't you see that both Abimael Guzman and Shining Path are evil terrorists, and why do you like to whitewash and/or protect them so much. Don't you already know how much suffering they caused in tens of thousands of Peruvians by bombing or killing them? Or do you sincerely think that Abimael Guzman and Shining Path is totally innocent?--AAAAA 04:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Descendall, have you stopped beating your wife?--Cúchullain t/c 16:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Constitution of Peru merge

Hey, about the merge tag, the person who added it was surely referring to the Peruvian Constitution article, but was careless and didn't capitalize the second word. Anyway, there should just be a redirect, there is not much content in either to merge really; I should work on the article over the weekend, I haven't done anything for it despite proposing it for the WikiProject Peru collaboration, you're more than welcome to help. Thanks, --Gabbec 07:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Intriguing Edits

Have a look over at interesting article debate and let me know what you think RE: putting a brief bit about origins in the beginning, and the campaign to summarily remove any perceived negative information even if it's backed up by multiple cited sources in blockquoted citation referenced format. Thank you for your time. Yours, Smeelgova 17:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC).

Earthquake of Cúcuta

Yes, there is evidence. If you look at this version of that page, I put in the url into the copyvio template, but it didn't show up (I'm not sure why). Regardless, this is a direct translation of this page. However, suddenly today (in trying to search for the page again today, I discovered that this exact article (untranslated) can also be found at the Spanish Wikipedia. There, there is a claim that (take my word for it if you don't read Spanish) that authorization was given here to use information from this website under the GDFL. So, some mention of that needs to be made in the talk section of that page.--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 17:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Satillite airport pictures

All of the satilite pictures of airports are from google earth which for this particular area is from NASA. NASA is a US government agency so the use of its material is allowed.

P.S. I have not been able to respond lately to all the deletion warnings as I was talking a break (and still am) from wikipedia.

Thanks, Vivaperucarajo 23:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar of Diligence

The Barnstar of Diligence
I, Smeelgova, award this barnstar to Descendall for Descendall's tireless contributions in the face of challenge. Thank you. Smeelgova 02:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC).

(feel free to add to your user page if you like). yours, Smeelgova 02:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC).


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Break

I'm sorry if you did not understand the first time but let me make this clear again. I am on a break from wikipedia. Right now I really don't care about how many times you post warnings on my page because I dont even look at them. You are just wasting your time because im not even on wikipedia anymore. Just delete all the "unsourced" pictures that i have put on in the past few months if you want to. I really dont care. Just stop filling up my talkspace with stupidness and nonsense.

P.S. I did take that picture of the presidential plane and i take a lot of photos of other photos of planes.

                                Thanks Vivaperucarajo 02:04, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

First of all I deleted the warnings on my talkpage because i didn't want 52 places taken up on my talkpage making it look all messy and unorganized and I can control my talkpage if I want. I did not upload it in "bad faith" i just thought that if you edit a picture its no longer copyrighted. Also the aiport satilite pictures have been copyrighted by NASA if you look under the two other copyrights. Also the old map was made by me because I took two completely different maps, edited them, and then combinded them. If I went throught all that trouble i did not do anything in "bad faith". What i'm saying is you don't have to tell me that you are going to delete a photo just do it. Stop messing up my talkpage if your going to do it anyways.

Thanks, Vivaperucarajo 04:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI

You may wish to take note and/or comment:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voyage Au Pays Des Nouveaux Gourous Yours, Smeelgova 17:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC).

McGovern discussion - FYI

What the heck? I came here to inform you that I changed the licence on an image you commented on, Image:Abimael Guzman 6.jpg, but I can't help but comment on this oddball rationale for a revert. To take this crazy logic to its conclusion, Tvccs should request that Classical antiquity be deleted. After all, none of the editors of that article were "old enough to have lived through the time in question." --Descendall 02:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
The rationale for my revert speaks to the fact that the revisions made reflect a clear lack of direct knowledge of that time in history in the United States, whereas in this case there are plenty of living people that know far more, and that luxury exists. Far too many younger Americans have never learned just how corrupt the Nixon administration was and its effect on American society through a watered-down and/or sanitized history. The revisions made speak to the revisioner not having any direct knowledge, based on the fact the revisions made removed the phrase dirty tricks, when nearly anyone alive in the U.S. at that time, or that had thoroughly studied that period, would absolutely associate dirty tricks with the the Nixon campaign - they are the ones that largely wrote the book on it. I have repeatedly taken the position, as stated on my profile, and as is the case here, that editors should not edit articles of which they have no direct knowledge, to do so is irresponsible. Tvccs 03:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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And I should add...or that have thoroughly researched the subject, as is referenced above. However, in this case, even a rudimentary knowledge of that period of history would have led the revisioner to never imagine removing dirty tricks, etc. Tvccs 04:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent comment, and it's obviously not possible to have direct knowledge of all subjects - there is a huge need, and it's a major weakeness of Wikipedia editing, for editors to have a substantial knowledge level of whatever they edit, politically or otherwise, as I have advocated since joining Wikipedia. I have no political POV on the suitability of inclusion material, rather its accuracy and sourcing...I added the following to User_talk:Jersey_Devil...

Let me offer the following as well...there is a so-called "sourced" quote in that article about McGovern and 20 million people leaving the Democratic party. The source for the quote isn't original, however, I traced the source back to a columnist for the National Review, who I found an e-mail address for, and who I sent an e-mail asking for the source of said quote - he responded it had been said by McGovern in a 1993 PBS program he helped produce - no transcript or tape of said program is available, and I could remove the quote if I wanted to be a jerk, but the reply of the original source is sufficient for me - I actually did the legwork and the research, as I would as a reporter or producer. Tvccs 05:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jersey_Devil"

I'm not speaking of anything here that isn't very well documented on a historical basis, and I take the time and effort to do the actual research. Please don't make this a degree-oriented etc. qualification issue, as it isn't - it's a matter of research and knowledge, as well as not sanitizing history and claiming something like dirty tricks is a POV when it flat out is NOT. That's my dog, per se, and I think any and all Wikipedia editors need to research before they make edits, regardless of whether they agree with whatever might be said. There are certainly tons of things I don't "like" on here, but I don't remove/edit anything unless I am well-researched, multiple sourced, and as certain as I can reasonably be as to what I edit, and I very rarely touch other's material unless I am as certain as I can reasonably be it's factually incorrect. Others can certainly pursue editing as they see fit, I'm just following the credos required by major media organizations that care about accuracy first. I have actually found publishing material on here, in following that philosohy, helps improve my editing/fact checking, which is a good thing. Again, thanks for your comments. Tvccs 05:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Cults in Our Midst

I have updated the Cults in Our Midst article entry. Take a look and let me know what you think, on the article's talk page. Yours, Smeelgova 23:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC).

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crazy Therapies (book)

You may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crazy Therapies (book). Yours, Smeelgova 03:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC).

Re: Order

Thanks! --Soman 04:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

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