Talk:Derek Prince

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Regarding the edit by Zosodada, I think that changing Derek's description to "Religious radio broadcaster" is not a good idea. This is because:

  • Derek's ministry covered a lot more than radio broadcasting. As mentioned in the article, he published many books. In addition, he was the Pastor of several churches and preached regularly to large congregations as an itinerant Bible teacher. His Bible teaching engagements took him to many parts of the world, sometimes preaching to thousands at a time. To state that he was a "religious radio broadcaster" is not entirely accurate.
  • Also, Derek wasn't really a preacher of religion because his field was much narrower than the term suggested by the word "religion". Derek's primary work was teaching the Bible. To say he was a religious broadcaster is to say too much. There are many topics in religion / Christianity that Derek never engaged in. His primary work was Bible teaching.
  • The phrase "Internationally recognised Bible teacher" has been used frequently to describe Derek Prince. Those of us who are familiar with his ministry are used to this description. Derek Prince ministries has used this phrase very often.

At the very least, I suggest keeping "Bible teacher" in the article, but for now, I'll revert the change to how it was before.

[edit] Prosperity Gospel's Influences

In his well known tape, "THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST -- GOD'S ATOMIC WEAPON", Derek Prince advises believers to testify to Satan their sins are redeemed. This is very dangerous, and one is not advised to testify about sins even to lower grade witch unless one is well certain he has confessed them to God first, and they are heard and forgiven.

One of the things that bothers me the most may be his advice to use blood of Jesus Christ as a protection for finances. Jesus clearly states we cannot serve God and money, and no one can. So, doing this practice we are in danger to testify about applying holy blood as a talisman to protect our job, finances, money (some followers even cars), and do a blasphemy against blood if we use the most holy blood of Christ against Christ's will and against God's will.

But this sort of an issue is impossible to bring forth in faith churches that follow him, since one is immediatelly accused of being religious, or even having spirit of Absolom (meaning rebellion against God's annointed).

Such rebellion sometimes means being excluded from the community, being marked as "fallen from God", and risking mental or other deseases as "rebellion against God reaps what it has sown".

All of this may not be enough to declare Derek Prince a false teacher, but one is advised to

   "Do not put out the Spirit's fire;
     do not treat prophecies with contempt.
    Test everything. Hold on to the good."
        (1 Thess 5:19-21)

Derek Prince is still on the shelves in lots of Pentecostal churches, yet one is advised to hold on to the Bible, instead of human doctrines. One can never show enough respect for Blood. Lack of it can result in (spiritual) death or lunacy.

The Blood of Jesus is too precious to be used as a weapon, or as anything aside from primary Scriptural use of blood for sanctification and for cleansing of sins, and protection of life and soul.

ON THE OTHER HAND, it would be very unfair to hide the fact that his teachings have lead the Scriptural study about Blood in good direction, except for errors and when we disagree on "Trinity" doctrine, (I am a monotheist.)

Moreover, mere proclamation sins are redeemed through blood does not save anyone, since salvation is by grace, and HOLY SPIRIT decides when the blood will be applied, and not our proclamation, thus us forgiving to ourselves.

[edit] Founding of Ft. Lauderdale movement--what exactly happened with Purvis?

Could someone give a source for the point about Eldon Purvis's homosexuality? All the published sources I've found on the shepherding movement are extremely coy about the nature of the "moral failing" that motivated the Ft. Lauderdale Five to undertake a new ministry. What exactly happened, and how public was the scandal?

The bio on Derek Prince by Stephen Mansfield mentions the topic briefly but does not go into a lot of detail.168.12.16.36 14:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)