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Contents 1 Move 2 California 3 POV 4 US deregulation

[edit] Move

I agree and made the move but somebody reversed the move without comment Tiles 01:07 May 2, 2003 (UTC)

Why we need a separate article for an deregulation in each country? Sure, the current article has only mention about dereguration in USA so I added mentioon about that in Japan and someone erased it. Why?? -- Taku 01:37 May 2, 2003 (UTC)

See above. Your contribution added very little to deregulation or to deregulation in Japan, for that matter. I suggest that we split the article into 2. Leave the page but transfer the US info to Deregulation in the United States. OK?

No. I know the article is not good enough but then we need to expand it. I mean simply put why we should not discuss Deregulation in general and talk about that only in the USA? Deregulation occurs not only in U.S. -- Taku 04:01 May 2, 2003 (UTC)

Oh, also about spliting. In wikipedia, it is more preferable to have one article discussing the same topic happening in different countries. See prefecture or district. -- Taku 04:03 May 2, 2003 (UTC)

I am happy to write an article on Deregulation in New Zealand and will add it to my "to-do" list. I do not accept that it is useful to clutter up a general page. Far better to have a decent article on deregulation with appropriate links to examples as in Revolution, where the specific circumstances of national revolutions are listed as links to articles.

I think the reason of the status of Revolution article is because if you combine them into one article, it can be too long. Now mention about deregulation in USA is very short so I don't see much motivation to split it off. I don't think having some sections corresponding each country is a cluttered. There are a lot of articles in herre. For example, prefecture, divorce and many other I don't remember. -- Taku 01:18 May 4, 2003 (UTC)

If you are happy, I am happy. When you finish the section on Deregulation in Japan we can discuss this again. Cheers Tiles 04:00 May 4, 2003 (UTC)

If someone ever writes about deregulation in Russia this page WILL be cluttered. BL 04:38, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

[edit] California

Gray Davis said he was "deregulating" the electricity market, but I think he was lying. Rather, he was trying to "socialize" it, in the sense of moving the market away from the free market principles practiced so successfully by Pennsylvania.

Since I feel so strongly about this, I hesitate to start writing. I wouldn't like to lose my NPOV credentials. But could anyone help shed some light on what happened in California (pre-Schwarzenegger)?

• stated intent of Davis's plan
• actual effect
  • according to Davis
  • according to newspapers
  • according to Davis critics
• intervention by Bush
• current situation

The above is an outline of what should be in that article. Or did someone already write it? If so, please add a link. Thanks. --Uncle Ed 14:49, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

See California electricity crisis. The real problem was the ineffective deregulation that resulted in the failure of the market. The architects of the PJM market (Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland) had a clear vision of how the market should operate and put in place the appropriate rules see PJM. In California the political process resulted in a series of compromises without a clear understanding of the risks inherent in a deregulated electricity market. I live in New Zealand so have little or no understanding of the personalities but from here it would appear that good advice from knowledgeable people such as Prof Bill Hogan (Harvard) was ignored by the politicians in California and it would seem just that the State Governor should take the blame. Tiles 07:21, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I think that the California electricity crisis article has POV problems, although it does acknowledge that the fateful decisions were made prior to the Davis administration. I live in California; the crisis is going to recur, because nothing substantial has been done to provide adequate electricity production and tranmission infrastructure. I will put the California electricity crisis article on my to-do list, and see if I can balance it somewhat. --Herschelkrustofsky 18:01, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This has now been done. I think it is more balanced now; we'll see how other editors respond. --Herschelkrustofsky 00:52, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] POV

This article has a POV problem. It uses words such as "unfortunate," "more balanced approaches to regulation," etc. Rhobite 18:51, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

There should be a distinction between deregulating tarrifs etc. (which can be justified) and dregulating safety or environmental policies (which cannot be justified) 209.197.154.157 19:58, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

It needs a lot of work generally. Be bold! - if others disagree they'll let you know. Rd232 ^talk 12:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US deregulation

So, is there some reason why there isn't listed a deregulation in the U.S. in a positive light? Because I really doubt that all regulation is bad. 129.186.18.81 01:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

That's easy - because some Wikipedia admins don't want it to be shown in anything other than a bad light. Check out the edit histories to find where substantial arguments cited in favor of deregulation are ruthlessly expunged. --86.131.93.168 09:16, 12 February 2007 (UTC)