Talk:Demographics of the United Kingdom

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[edit] Population figures

1.5 million speak scots! Absolute rubbish!

I have corrected the population figure for the UK. The article listed a 60,270,708 figure estimate for mid-2004. This figure circulates widely online, and I am not sure where it originates. Perhaps it comes from the CIA World Factbook, which is known for making many mistakes. The only credible source for UK population is the UK National Statistics. On 28 January 2005 the UK National Statistics released the UK population estimate for 1st July 2003 which I have put in the article instead of the 60,270,708 bogus figure. Population estimate for 1st July 2004 is not published yet. Hardouin 12:37, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

See my response at User talk:HardouinCantus 11:52, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

This is my response to him:
I am sorry to tell you that the figure given by the List of countries by population for the UK is utterly wrong. At the 2001 census the UK National Statistics realized that they had predicted a much higher population rate than happened in reality in the 1990s, and so all the population estimates they gave in the 1990s were over estimated. Obviously the US Census bureau still uses these estimates when making their calculations. After long research, the UK National Statistics published new estimates for all the years of the 1990s, and now they calculate their estimates using different methods, which is why they publish them so late (just now we have July 2003 estimates), but at least these new estimates are credible. Check their website for full details. The estimate for July 2003 is 59,553,800, whereas the US Census bureau projection for July 2005 is 60,441,457. If the US Census bureau were right, that would mean a population increase of 0.74% a year in the UK, ranking the UK along with booming Western countries like the US or Canada. Actually, the growth pattern of the UK population is typically European, i.e. extremely slow, not more than 0.2% a year at the moment, so the real figure in July 2005 will be closer to 59,800,000 in reality, or even below. The US Census Bureau projections are completely bogus here. Plus, personally I find it rather imperialistic to have the US Census Bureau decide what is right and what is wrong for the population of all the countries of the world !! At least for developped countries we should base our information at Wikipedia on data from the national statistical offices. Hardouin 12:57, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Raw data

I've moved some of this from the article until it can be written in properly -- Joolz 13:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Population growth rate

0.25% (2000 est.)

Birth rate

11.74 births/1,000 population (2003 est.)

Death rate

10.33 deaths/1,000 population (2003 est.)

Migration
Net migration rate

2.58 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2002 est.)

===Sex ratio at birth

  • 1.02 male(s)/female (2002 est.)

under 15 years

  • 1.02 male(s)/female (2002 est.)

15-64 years

  • 0.99 male(s)/female (2002 est.)

65 years and over

  • 0.84 male(s)/female (2002 est.)

total population

  • 0.98 male(s)/female (2002 est.)
Infant mortality rate

5.13 deaths/1,000 live births (2003 est.)

Life expectancy at birth

total population

  • 78.05 years (2001 est.)

male

  • 75.7 years (2001 est.)

female

  • 80.4 years (2001 est.)
Total fertility rate

1.73 children born/woman (2003 est.)

[edit] Graphs

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...are always nice. How about these? Potentially others for population change over time etc. Mark Lewis 23:40, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, definitely a good idea! Is it possible to make the lines a little sharper though? -- Joolz 23:19, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
Done Mark Lewis 22:13, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] jedi knight

Removing reference to this in the table, it has no official recognition and is little more than a joke entry. I realise that it has 'comedic' value to some people so it warrants its own wiki page, but including it with serious demographic data diminishes the credibility of the page.

[edit] Ethnicity breakdown

I am just interested in why it is that white ethnicity doesn't get it's own hyper-link/breakdown as the other groupings do. Surely at least some of the individuals who register this ethnicity (white) were not born in the UK. What proportion of the white population of the UK was actually *born* in the UK? Would Eastern Europeans, German/Polish immigrants, etc... be counted as white (or, rather, would they register themselves as white?).

How much of the white UK population is American/Canadian, etc...?

This would just be an interesting question (I'm sure that it would have political and social ramifications in our 'globalised hub').

[edit] Population density map request

Map needed
It is requested that a map or maps be included in this article to improve its quality.
Wikipedians in the United Kingdom may be able to help!

[edit] HIV/AIDS statistics?

Why doesn't this article list numbers of people living with HIV/AIDS? All the other articles on demographics of European countries seem to list those statistics. --Grace 03:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)