Talk:Democratic peace theory
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[edit] Graph
I have created this graph for other articles. However, a similar graph for this article could be good. For example, how about a graph showing the number of nations with Polity score of 8 or higher? There has been no wars and I do not think any MID causing battle deaths between such nations.Ultramarine 11:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Templates
I have no particular objection in removing the confusing template, but someone complained that the page is indeed confusing very recently. I also think the POV template is almost fixed, although some changes may still be in order. However, my main objection is that discussion on this issue should stay for some longer, say a couple of weeks, to allow people who originally made criticisms to comment on the issues. Massimamanno 17:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Two weeks have passed since I asked for concrete objections, so removing them now.Ultramarine 19:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Where does the recent Isreali/Lebanon war fit into this.
This was a war (even if no major militery response was carried out by Lebanon) and yet it happened between two democracies, Isreal and Lebanon.
You could argue that it was solely a war against Hezbollah, but Hezbollah is a part of the Lebanese democratic goverment structure and the infliction of damage by Isreal, went beyond the areas de-facto controlled by Hezbollah. It was faught largely to obtain a political concession from the Lebanese state, that is for them to move against Hezbollah.
The existance of conflicts like this, are recent examples of failiure's of the democratic peace theory in practice. I think they deserve to be mentioned.
- See List of possible exceptions to democratic peace theory.Ultramarine 07:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Influence section
Do we need to move straight into a detailed musing over the legitimacy of the Iraq war before we look at the theory properly? I'm going to trim this section. Slac speak up! 03:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please do not delete sourced material.Ultramarine 09:29, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Small and Singer 1976
Ray states this regarding this very old study: "This allowed Doyle to reiterate with more authority the claim made by Babst (1972), acknowledged somewhat begrudgingly by Small & Singer (1976) and repeated by Rummel (1975–81), that no two democratic states have ever fought an interstate war against each other." "Small & Singer did report an absence of wars between democratic states with "marginal exceptions," but they discounted the significance of this pattern. What they did not do, again at least partly because they had no comprehensive data on regime types, was to evaluate the statistical likelihood of this absence of war between democratic states."[1]
So I think we should change the text to "Melvin Small and J. David Singer (1976) responded; they found an absence of wars between democratic states with two "marginal execpetions" but denied that statistically democracies were in general less war-like than other nations, starting the academic debate." If objections, I would like to see an actual quote from the 1976 article supporting the other view.Ultramarine 20:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- This is not an accurate account. What you write gives the impression that they support the view that wars between democracies are less likely (what you write means that they don't support monadic peace) while your quote says the opposite. Massimamanno 21:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- Your version is an improvement.Ultramarine 22:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
