Talk:Delta Phi

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Eds, please square the "longest continuously existing greek letter social fraternity" in this entry with the "oldest continuous national general Greek-letter fraternity in North America" of the Kappa_Alpha_Society entry. 1825 is popularly believed to have occured prior to 1827.

The easiest way to do it is to yank it out of the D-Phi page. The KA page includes "in North America" as a qualifier because the US never had a monopoly on fraternities. Heck, "University" is frequently added as a qualifier to KA just to make the firstness claim iron clad. Chi Phi claims they were founded in 1824 but were so secret they didn't write things down until after they heard about the Union triad (this could even be true, but history is unkind to people who don't put pen to paper).

The KA claim is incorrect as they disbanded or else went underground during the persecution of Dr. Nott at Union in the early 1830s. Delta Phi, famously, did not, as John J. Hyde, a Delta Phi member, led the charge against Dr. Nott, to the point where KA et al. could come back out publicly again, Dr. Nott's son became a Delta Phi, and Dr. Nott himself asked to be initiated and was denied.Sigil7 03:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Just a reminder, folks, that Wikipedia does not encourage living people to add entries about themselves, nor add themselves as 'notable alumni', things like that.Sigil7 11:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

One should also not be adding oneself to such lists as 'notable alumni'.Sigil7 18:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)