Talk:Dean Martin
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Someone rewrote the Dean Martin article with typos and other mistakes (given name "Dine Crochets"). Article edited for syntax, punctuation, and links. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.67 (talk • contribs) .
On a whole, this is a pretty good article. However, it needs be be rewritten in a more encyclopaedic and less tabloid style. Here are some examples of parts that need work:
- Martin attributed his long-term TV popularity to the fact that he never put on airs or pretended to be anyone else onstage, but that's not necessarily true.
- It's also no secret that Martin was sipping apple juice, not booze, most of the time onstage.
- But Martin courageously kept his private life to himself,
--Saforrest 21:07, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Saforrest is right, in addition there are some important parts missing. How did he meet Frank Sinatra for example. ReverendG 03:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Corageous
Hi:
Yep. If he's a private man, keeping his health woes to himself wouldn't have been corageous, it would have been second nature. Still, most people whether celebrity or not eventually have to make some sort of announcement to family and friends about major health issues. Perhaps it might be better to say 'holding true to his private nature he...' et cetera.
[edit] Handsome?
- All on looks, huh?
- He's only mildly handsome, IMO
- IMHO, you get that same "dark, mysterious" look With C.Grant.
- IMHO that's dandy if you like the "dark, mysterious" look. *realizes something and coughs*
- Well what else is to him besides the "dark, mysterious" look? *offers cough drops*
- He's kinda' fun..... *runs off to dye her hair and eyes*
- Wha..........?!? To what colo--??? Wait!!!
- I have no dye... never mind.....or maybe I could buy some today........
- Just because of Dean Martin?!? *remembers similar green face-paint experiance* Howabout you stick with what you've got (you'll not find any better, anyways!)!
- I think I'm just trying to NOT look like D.M.
- Well, you dont...(thank goodness!)
- Clasic looks, a girl could drown in those eyes, very hansome.
[edit] Dean's Drinking
I removed the ridiculous caption about Dean pursuing his "favorite hobby" as POV and completely unsourced.
In fact, I think there needs to be some sourced mention in this article concerning the majority of Martin's drunken persona being completely an act with apple juice frequently posing as booze in his act. Will see what I can find of this account and while Martin certainly drank during performances he was as sober as can be and the drunk act was all part of his schtick. --Wgfinley 22:56, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- You're right, the majority of Dean's drinking was an act used by him to live up to his lovable drunk persona. I wish I had some sources to give you, but good luck. ReverendG 02:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
The advertisement for the Dean Martin Biography on Biography Chanel UK always mentioned that he often drank apple juice and wasn't fond of whiskey. Any help?
and this bit just doesn't belong in an encyclopedia:
"Back in the old days, Dino would have laughed, cleaned himself up, and then accepted the "invitation" to go out and knock back a few"
jesus... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.135.160.247 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Needs A Re-Write
This article is pretty un-encyclopaedic, seemingly written by a fan rather than from someone with a neutral POV - for example an exclamation mark should NEVER be used except where part of a quote. The article doesn't really touch on his days with the Rat Pack and his relationship with Sinatra and Davis Jnr. There are also far too many assumptions and as the tag at the top of the article says, not enough references and substantiations. A pity given the cultural icon status of Dean Martin.
Agreed on all points. This needs to be flagged for a comprehensive scholarly re-write.
