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[edit] Language

There seems to be some inconsistency on which version's terms are used. There is some original Japanese terminology, but the article also uses "crescent moon wand" and "Silver Emperial Crystal", which I believe are North American dub terms. (The corresponding Japanese terms, IIRC, are Moon Stick and Phantom Silver Crystal.)

On a somewhat related note, what is the justification for the statement that the Japanese spelling of her name is Nehellenia while the English is Nehelenia? To my knowledge there hasn't been any officially confirmed romanization. (Can anyone correct me on this? I mean with an actual official source, not a fan site.) I think the Japanese version should just be an exact transliteration of the syllables, Ne-he-re-ni-a, since that is all we know for sure. Yumecosmos 04:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

A good point. It may also be worth bringing up that the English subtitled episode 164 gives her name in the title card as Nehelenia. -Masamage 06:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Nehellenia

"Nehellenia was truly a child forced to inhabit an adult body" when dose it say that? i thourt the mirror brainwashed her and she grew up thinking she had to be pretty or she be alone and after a few years she ask the mirror if she allwas look pretty and then she want insane and stole her servents dreamsSailor cuteness 15:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. It's not that the mirror brainwashed her; she was just terrified in general of becoming ugly. I don't think the sentence is correct, though. She was really an adult, but she gets reverted back to a child in the anime, I think as a sort of mercy (a second chance). This page has good info. --Masamage 02:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logo

As per on Death Busters And Black Moon Clan We need the Dead Moon Circus' logo (that black thing on their foreheads)... Should We include Nehellia's Logo (the 3 moons) as well?Lego3400: The Sage of Time 02:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

"As per" usually refers to a formal decision that's been made; the only person adding logos is you. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them--I kind of like them--just be careful what terms you use. Also, I don't know what symbol you're talking about. Zirconia has what looks like a third eyeball, Nehellenia has a costume motif (not a logo), the Quartet have little black circles (possibly also a costume motif), and each member of the Trio has something different. --Masamage 03:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
View the SuperS special episode "The Return of Haruka and Michiru! The Ghostly Puppet Show", and when that maid goes to attack Michiru on the balcony, you see something on her forehead. I think that's what he's talking about. [1] [2] -- RattleMan 03:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
It's a "third eye", but isn't that getting a little crufty?? -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 08:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
If you look at the pic of the Amazoness Quartet you'll notice that that "third Eye" is on them as well... Its on all the Members of the Trio as well... And Nehllia and Zircona! They all have it... Its their logo... I'm Assumeing its on the Lermurs too... I'm betting that their is an explantion about it in one of the art books. Could someone look this up, I'd do it but Sadly i can't Read Japanase and don't have access to a translation of the text... Lego3400: The Sage of Time 16:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not a logo, it's a costume motif. There's a huge difference. And the Trio all have different ones, Nehellenia doesn't have it at all, and Zirconia has what looks like a literal third eye. Wayyy too crufty. --Masamage 19:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Really? But it is on Nehelenia Its that big black gem on her head... Its the same item just larger and its more in her hair than on her head (As she has that 3 Moon Mark, She can't attach it to her forehead like the others) and while the trio's may be different... The only difference is the decorations around it... Its the same Gem... (It also appears to be the same black stones Nehellia has on her neck thing and wristbands but last bit is just my view)--Lego3400: The Sage of Time 03:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The thing about the maid reminded me! The Gemstone is what places the Lemuers and People under Nehellia (and in turn Zircona, The Quartet, the trio)'s control! If only we could find what it is...Lego3400: The Sage of Time 20:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dead moon

was Queen Nehellenia home plant the dead moon or the new moon (or are they the same) and was it in the center of our moon or a diffrent planit Sailor cuteness 16:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

It's called the New Moon, but it's not clear where it is. I think it's implied somewhere that it's the center of our moon, but I don't know which version that was in. --Masamage 19:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
In the manga, she seemed to live in the realm on the other side of the mirror during the time of the Silver Millennium. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 00:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Logo

I figured out their logo! you that Thing that sorta looks like an eye that is on the Drapes used by the trio and appear almost every place inside the Circus? THAT Is their Logo. Some one get a scrennie of it and dump in to the Logo slot in the infobox —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lego3400 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

Theres a shot of it in almost every episode BTW, Its in the Bar that the Trio hangs out in and in the Spa the Quartet hangs out in. I could go on and on about its locations but it seems to be in enough places to warent being called their logo Lego3400: The Sage of Time 19:40, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

did the dub cut out them drinking in the bar? because they usely cut any thing like that sailor cuteness-ready for love 14:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope. Cloverway wasn't as easily-shocked as DiC. --Masamage 22:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Ummm, I see you added an image. I'm still reeeeally not convinced that can be reasonably called a logo. Even if I was convinced, that one is pretty low-quality. --Masamage 22:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Lets see, the bar, the spa, the curtin they change behind, the door way to the circus, the symboal that allows lermures to a appear out of the shadow, that should be enough to convince you...... And that was the best i could do... It got stretched.... Lego3400: The Sage of Time 00:32, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I've drastically cleaned up your image. Until a replacement is found, this will have to do. -- RattleMan 01:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

do we need the logos to be at the top of the page? because the dark kingdom doom tree aliens and shadow galactca dont have logos would it be better to have a smaller version of the logo and put them somwere elec in the article like the sailor planit symboys in the sailors articles so the other articles kinda match? sailor cuteness-ready for love 14:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I have a confession, and it is that I really don't like these infoboxes. If we want some, we should make them ourselves. --Masamage 20:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

i agree on the sailor cosmos page thers blank spaces where her powers go in the infobox ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 20:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

No, that's not what I mean. I love our Senshi boxes; she's just ill-suited for one because we have no info about her to put in one. No, what I mean is the "Fictional organization" infoboxes. --Masamage 20:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

oh right sorry should the organization boxs follow the same format as sailor boxes ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 21:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Visually, yes, mostly. Most importantly, though, it would need fields more relevant to our needs--we don't really need "universe," "type," "founded," "location," or "purpose," for instance. We need "Story arc" (ie First arc), "Leader" (ie Queen Beryl) "Chaos form" (ie Queen Metallia), "MOTD" (ie Youma), and "Subsidiaries" (ie Shitennou), that I can think of off the top of my head. We could also have a more flexible image-slot that didn't label everything a "logo," which would allow me to stop being so anal about the definition of that word. :P Instead of a chopped-out picture of neon-Zircon like we have now, we could have a nice, informative screenshot of the circus. --Masamage 21:41, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] last edit

sorry i thorght it would make it easyer to read ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 19:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

No need to be sorry. ^_^ The hope is that eventually our prose there will be so good that we don't need headers to make it clear which version we mean. --Masamage 19:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
cool :} ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 19:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
There are some articles that still make that kind of division, like Death Busters, but the writing on those is pretty awful. ;_; --Masamage 19:34, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

thats why i put it in because i saw it on others hehehe i should probly look befor i leap ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 19:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Heh. I've had that happen too. ^^ It's probably useful to know that I'm a fan of the bold, revert, discuss style of editing WP. Boldness is a great way to keep things moving, because either something gets done, or it gets discussed. :) Or it gets discussed and then done better. --Masamage 22:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

just like now huh is there anything wikipidia cant do ♥sailor cuteness-ready for love♥ 22:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

would anyone mind if I got a pic of queen nehalania whole body insted of her fore head from my dvds? ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love♥ 10:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure, looks like there's room for it. Go ahead, if you've got a good screen-capture program. :) The one atop this page is pretty cool, but a full screenshot would be somewhat better. --Masamage 01:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

il get it after my college lessions ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and etiquette♥ 09:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Is this one ok? ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and grace♥ 18:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm? --Masamage 19:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I can try to get a better one the screen keep changing il try useing super's insted of stars because she dosnt move alot in super's ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and grace♥ 19:35, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I see. You uploaded a totally new one. Hrm, I'm not sure about it. The other one is higher quality. In the future, go ahead and upload new versions of the existing pics. That way we can just revert from version to version rather than having to go through a deletion process with whichever one we don't use. --Masamage 19:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
ok :} Can we get the picture to the same quality to the other one because IMAO i think it looks better than the old one because this shows her looking ....well "evil" the other one she looked tired lolz (no disrespect to who ever uploded it:} ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and grace♥ 19:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Do we need a pic of old Queen Nehalania? I can get on if we need one ♥Eternal Pink-ready for love and grace♥ 19:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Moon poster

I found an awesome picture! It's the second one down on this page. Isn't that a hoot? I need to find out what episode it's from, so I'm emailing the webmistress. Once we know, I think we should totally put that one up. --Masamage ♫ 01:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

I thik its the one when chibiusa gets kidnaped by the dead moon circus ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 16:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Lizzard replied and gave her permission, but she doesn't remember what episode it's in except that it's probably one around the time the circus first comes to town. I'll do some poking around when I get home. --Masamage ♫ 17:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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