Talk:De Wallen

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[edit] Human Trafficking

Although the "human trafficking" part is good, wouldn't it fit better in Prostitution in the Netherlands and a smaller summary of that in this article. It just doesn't seems specific enough for de wallen, but more for prostitution in general Garion96 15:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] True

Yeah, that's right. But I've read the rules of Wikipedia recently and I discovered I could have broken the 'original research' guideline. What I've done is I researched an internetsite (www.hookers.nl) where prostitution-clients write about their experiences with prostitutes. There's a lot of interesting information there. For instance about the age and nationality of the prostitutes. There's no report where you can find such information!!! By analyzing this site I have gained much more insight into the world of prostitution. I've also used the chatter done by prostitutes and clients on this site (including me). You know, I am a prostitute-client myself. But anyway, if you happen to speak Dutch and you research prostitution, visit www.hookers.nl. You can check things for yourself. I think I'll expand Prostitution in the Netherlands too. I'll be as neutral as possible. --Bruno Junqueira 23:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] No original Research

I’ve definitively broken the ‘no original research’-rule. I removed all the data about the ages and nationalities of prostitutes. I researched those myself. I also removed references to certain alleys. I obtained that data from what a prostitute told me.

All the data in my contribution to this article can now be verified. But.... I have to offer some additional notes. The Scharlaken Koord states that out of 439 Dutch window-prostitutes on the Wallen they had contact with in 2001, 380 indicated they were brought into prostitution by a loverboy. That’s not a fabrication created by a fundamentalist Christian organisation. This is confirmed by many other sources. A police officer named Manon Niemeijr has spoken with a lot of window-prostitutes in the ‘Spijkerkwartier’, a red-light district in Arnhem (source: ’Verlicht Kwartier, 40 jaar Arnhemse spijkerbuurt’ by Kees Crone). She confirms most Dutch women behind the windows were introduced into prostitution by a loverboy. And above all, I had the chance to ask two (former) window-prostitutes if this was true (original research!!!). They both confirmed it. But they stressed that most girls get rid of their pimp very early on in their career and only a few are still under the spell of a pimp. --Bruno Junqueira 09:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV?

This article doesn't really talk about De Wallen as much as it seems to talk about pimps and human trafficking. Seems to me like these extra things are thrown in here to negatively color what might otherwise be a simple article about a famous place. 65.3.134.219 02:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)