User talk:David Warner

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[edit] Château de Ferrières

That's an interesting page - well done. Giano | talk 17:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Occupation of the Channel Islands

Can you explain why you moved Occupation of the Channel Islands to the rather cumbersome German occupation of the Channel Islands in World War II ? The correct protocol if you want to rename and redirect a page is to post a comment on the discussion page explaining your rationale, and giving others the opportunity to discuss this. I propose to revert it to its original name until the correct process has been followed footie 07:27, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Your explanation does not explain why you have not posted the suggestion on the talk page of the relevant article, or why such a long-winded name is necessary when there has only been one Occupation of the Channel Islands, and when all other articles have exactly the same format title (see List of military occupations). If you still insist that this is still a good idea, then are you going to go back and change all the links to the original page ? footie 19:14, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I have the same reservation about the Occupation of Denmark, so I've restored this page to its usual name. In Denmark, this event is always referred to as Besættelsen (i.e. the Occupation), and 1940-45 is the only time in Danish history that the entire country has been occupied by a hostile power. In 1864, Prussia occupied the Jutland Peninisula and in 1659, Sweden occupied most of the county, but these events are always referred to by other names. If you think a general rename is in order, a vote should be set up on it, since this issue no doubt involves many more articles. Best regards. Valentinian (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Occupation of Norway by Nazi Germany

This was discussed at length on the talk page, which you should have read. Please revert. --Leifern 19:17, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I did it myself. Please refer to talk pages before making such moves. This was discussed at length and the title was the result of serious negotiations. --Leifern 19:20, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Forbes list

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We appreciate your contributions to the Forbes magazine list of the The Twenty Most Influential Businessmen Of All Time article, but we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. Perhaps you would like to rewrite the article in your own words. For more information, take a look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Happy editing!

Well, the above is Wikipedia boilerplate, that doesn't really apply in this case.

FYI, as far as copyright goes, copying published lists can be very tricky. Some types of lists are very much fair game and some are absolutely right out. The deciding factor is creativity (or judgement) in either selecting the members of the list or in their arrangement. Mere hard work, no matter how difficult, doesn't create a copyright, but even a sliver of creativity does make it copyrighted. In this particular case, Forbes has a very strong case that the entire list is copyrighted (unless they got it from some public domain source themselves). If they used their knowledge and judgment to create the list, then we can't have it in Wikipedia. In other words, "Top 5 Tallest Presidents" is a list we can copy, but "(Some expert's) 5 Best Presidents" is a copyrighted list that we can't.

On the other hand, that someone has been so ranked by Forbes is a fact, and facts are not copyrightable, so we don't need to worry about pages that have a fact derived from the list on them. studerby 03:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC) studerby 03:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, one other thing. Since you didn't "cut and paste" the Forbes list, but merely transcribed their rankings, it may not seem to you like it's a "copy". However, courts have decided that reproducing the "heart of the work", no matter how small in relation to the original, is a copyriight violation, and in this case the "heart of the work" is the ranking of names. Another way of looking at is: does the Wikipedia list often serve as an effective replacement for an authorized copy of the list? If the answer is yes, it's a copyright violation. Sorry. studerby 04:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Princess Sophie of Ligne

Princess Sophie of Ligne has been proposed for deletion. An editor felt this person might not be notable enough for an article. Please review Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the relevant guidelines. If you can improve the article to address these concerns, please do so.

If no one objects to the deletion within five days by removing the "prod" template, the article may be deleted without further discussion. If you remove the prod template, the article will not be deleted, but if an editor is still not satisfied that it meets Wikipedia guidelines, it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. NickelShoe (Talk) 06:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

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