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[edit] crarch end

I am puzzled as to why you blanked Crouch End railway staton. I have restored it. -- RHaworth 02:30, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hackney and Homerton

Hi, noticed your Parkland Way edit (that needs better pix, I must say). Anyway, glad to see that you're thinking of expanding Hackney and Homerton. I've been largely concentrating on expanding and illustrating Hackney districts myself (adding to Upper Clapton right now, but after that it's Lower Clapton, Haggerston and De Beauvoir Town. I put some extra stuff on Homerton a little while ago, and was going to add more on the university hospital, which I have a rather grim pic of. I've been putting off fixing the 'Big Four' (Hackney Central, Stoke Newington, Shoreditch and Hoxton) and the borough page (and haven't even finished Dalston yet) because there's so much material, but glad to know someone else is on the case. Maybe we could collaborate. I was thinking, for example, about making quite sure that Hackney history prior to 1899 was on the Hackney Central page as opposed to the borough.

Living locally as I do, I can get pix - where things still exist, of course. I have some of St John's, Sutton House, the old Library and Wesleyan Hall and the new TLC and others that I have not used yet, but need more copy to justify them. Tarquin Binary 01:20, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for Frank Pick

Hello, good work on Frank Pick, and thanks for the contribution. However, you forgot to add any references to the article. Keeping Wikipedia accurate and verifiable is very important, and there is currently a push to encourage editors to cite the sources they used when adding content. What websites, books, or other places did you learn the information that you added to Frank Pick? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 04:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks

Thanks for adding the extra info to the article on Park Royal. JanesDaddy 01:31, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Finsbury Park

Hello. First of all the rationale: They are two stations, they have separate facilities, management, ticket offices, usage statistics, histories etc. Aside from that without some sort of splitting out, for someone who has never been to the station the article did not make it easy to visualise it.

Thats said I'm not against everything you have said:

  • I've put back some more details to the infobox (but I have to say this looked ghastly before and near imposible to follow with all the TLAs)
  • The note that GNER and Hull trains services do not stop at the station - nothing against this going back in - but isn't it a bit superflous?

Mrsteviec 08:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Northern Heights

Well done. I've added a few odd bits to the station articles, including a reference to Tony Beard's book.

It occurs to me that your map should say 'Brent', not 'Brent Cross'. IIRC the station was renamed after the road junction in the 60's. --ColinFine 20:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK Railway Wiki...

Hi Noted your UK Railways contributions on WP?

You might also be interested in the UK Railways Wiki that has started on WikiCites. () If interested you might want to port some of your articles or improve the existing ones :-).

There is also a project to catalouge routes, contribution to which would be much appreciated. ShakespeareFan00 15:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] tube station edits

I will take that into mind. I just thought that on some of these articles, their intros were too long. But then again. Simply south 23:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London stations

Glad you like it. :) Mrsteviec 06:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:London stations

Seems like a good idea, but I think it would be worthwhile to keep links to Transport for London and National Rail as well. btw, there's a discussion about the three station templates going on here. I've suggested merging them, and implementing the London features as options, but it's being suggested the London template be left seperate.Mtpt 18:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit to John Major: long articles

I noticed that after you had edited the page on John Major, the end of the article was missing. It looked as if your browser had cut off the end because the page was too long for it to handle. The John Major article isn't long enough to trigger the "long page" warning that Wikipedia sometimes gives. So I wondered, are you using a particularly old browser, or are you using Google Toolbar (which is known to cause some problems)? JRawle (Talk) 11:08, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I use Firefox (1.5.0.4, Linux) and tabs while editing, but haven't noticed any problems... perhaps I should keep an eye on that. Do you use the "Google Toolbar", which is known to cause problems? JRawle (Talk) 11:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I do use the google toolbar occassionally, is it known what it is particularly about the toolbar that causes the problems and is it just the Firefox version or also the Internet Explorer one as well?--DavidCane 22:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
If you edit a very long article, there is a message that mentions Firefox with Google Toolbar specifically. Edit United Kingdom for example, to see the message. They have told Google about the problem. I would never suggest anyone use Internet Explorer, and that would remove the tab capablity anyway. You could use a version of Firefox direct from Mozilla without the toolbar. JRawle (Talk) 16:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies

I did jump the gun a tad. I cleared a bunch of redlinks from it the other day and assumed someone was just putting one back. I do seem to have reversions on the brain as of late as my favourite articles keep getting vandalised. Erath 01:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moorgate

It's disappointing to see you revert my vandalism, but much more importantly it's great to see another tube enthusiast (are you on District Dave's fourm?) on WP - keep up the good work! 84.9.90.115 19:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wimbledon

I'm surprised to hear anybody would mispronounce Wimbledon, but I'll take your word for it! Lfh 19:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] London districts

Hi. I'd be inclined to include the template on any district article even those not in the list. It points the way to the main districts and they usually link to the smaller districts around them. I originally constructed the list by selecting (what I thought were) the most important districts from each borough. This was an attempt to not focus just on the central districts. I do think that all 47 of the most significant districts in the London Plan should be included and I've meant to x-ref the two but haven't got round to it. Certainly by that critera Tooting and Streatham (but not Balham) should be included. I'm aprehensive about adding anything "historic" to the list, as of course all parishes were abolished by 1965 (and many in the 1930s) so it seems wrong to present it in a contemporary list. Mrsteviec 14:24, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historic parish

There are some other articles about historic parishes in Greater London. Stoke Newington (parish) and Hackney (parish) for example. Perhaps they could all be linked somehow. Perhaps by category, template or list. Mrsteviec 14:47, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I've created the category here: Category:Ancient parishes of Greater London. There are already a few articles in there. Mrsteviec 09:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rayners Lane

1934 platform picture link invalid. I've tracked the picture down to

http://photos.ltmcollection.org/ixbin/hixclient.exe?IXsort=sort+select%28lcase%28production_role%29%3d%3d%22photographer%22%2cproduction_date_from%29&IXsubject=&_IXsubject=&_IXDB_=ltm&_IXSS_=_IXFPFX_%3dfull%252ft%26_IXMAXHITS_%3d15%26%252asform%3dsearch_form%26IXsearch%3dRayners%2bLane%26_IXDB_%3dltm%26IXsort%3dsort%2bselect%2528lcase%2528production_role%2529%253d%253d%2522photographer%2522%252cproduction_date_from%2529%26_IXSESSION_%3dmRNLTzMxj_i%26IXsubject%3d%26_IXx_%252ex%3d19%26IXfromdate%3d1934%26IXtodate%3d%26IXlocation%3d%26_IXx_%252ey%3d9&_IXSR_=wt1&_IXSESSION_=mRNLTzMxj_i&_IXSPFX_=full/t&_IXMAXHITS_=1&_IXFIRST_=1&submit-button=summary&_IXSECTION=&IXsearch=Rayners%20Lane&IXfromdate=1934&IXtodate=&IXlocation=

but this seems an unnecessarily loong address. Can you repair the link somehow?

Thanks for spotting and reporting the broken link. These images do occassionally get renamed. I have fixed it now using the Template:Ltmcollection method - DavidCane 00:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to WP:LUL

Welcome to WikiProject Underground. I hope you enjoy being a member and helping to get lu, lo and dlr articles to their best! Unisouth 08:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1949 Stock

Hi, I removed the external link to the photo on the London Underground 1949 Stock page as it actually was a 1938 stock driving motor car in the photo, there were no 1949 stock driving motor cars. There is however a photo of a 1949 stock car in the ltm collections but I have no idea how to set up the link in the same way that you did. Can you tell me how? Jsp3970 18:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks that worked great. Added a couple of photos to London Underground 1920 Stock using the menthod you mentioned. Thanks for the advice. Jsp3970 13:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turnham Green tube station

Thanks for your excellent work expanding this article! Obviously you have a great deal of knowledge of tube history -- any more contributions/expansions of the surrounding area District and Piccadilly line station articles would be well appreciated! Seann 11:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Great! I look forward to reading more history and details... Seann 12:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Portal Tube Image

It is permitted to use an image instead of the keyhole puzzle piece in portal templates. The standard width of the image is - 40px. Therefore the BR portal image is to small. Thats why it looks funny. Unisouth 09:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for fixing spelling errors for the WikiProject Underground pages. Unisouth 17:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New White City Station

Apparantly there is a lot of confusion about the new stations related to the white city development. The new hammersmith and city station is going to be called Wood Lane and H&Cs Shepards Bush is going to be renamed Shepards Bush Green. It is unknown what imput the central line will give. Unisouth 09:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

David, I noticed that you have changed the reference style formats that I added to the Goodge Street and Belsize Park tube station pages. As you could see, the method used by myself was Harvard referencing rather than in-line notes and this is a subject that has raised much discussion in the Wiki community. The format I used, though not templated, complied with the {cite-book} format although without the straight-jacket that an unforgiving template forces upon a sometimes complex citation.

That aside, when citing literature in either journals or books, it is customary in scholarly works – and I believe that Wikipedia aspires to this goal – to cite authors using their surnames first, rather than the order that appears on the book cover. Most traditional bibliographic referencing databases store and retrieve their data in this order.

I notice in the railway project group that there is no citation method discussed in the Manual of Style but I would earnestly suggest that professional looking Harvard referencing be adopted universally for citations and in-line marks reserved for footnotes and expansion of detail.

Best regards from a fellow enthusiast of the subject Hutch 11:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Train station co-ords

David, many thanks for all the hard work you've been putting in recently to various train station articles. Unfortunately, I notice that the co-ords used have been off by quite some distance, such as posts here and here. I have corrected some of them, to use a different geohack which seems to allow for more precise co-ords, but I wondered if you might have some time to double-check the others, and correct if needed? Thanks again, --Rebroad 22:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the comment. When I added the multimap links to the station articles you mentioned I wasn't trying to get the stations dead centre in the maps and give the geographical coordinates but rather position the stations on the maps so that they could be seen in the context of its surroundings. That's why the coordinates don't match the actual latitudes and longitudes of the stations. Personally, whilst I quite like the idea of having the coordinates at the top of the page, I think a quick direct link to a clear road map from the external links section is also useful for many readers. Many of the links from the Geohacks page produce large-scale satellite images which are not much use as they cover such large areas. --DavidCane 01:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi David. I agree, the page the user is taken to has a lot of links, most of which I don't use. Personally, I use just the google maps and google earth links, but I'm not sure what would be a better geohack to use than the one I changed it to. If you have any ideas, please let me know! I also agree that the co-ords would be just as good in the external links section as at the top of the page. --Rebroad 19:46, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Best of Merton

I am also puzzled as to why you keep deleting links to The Best of Merton? This is one of Wimbledon's most popular community and business web sites. Also, a precedent has been set by allowing links for the far more commercial sites such as Wimbledon Visitor (parading as The Complete Guide to Wimbledon) and the now defunct Wimbledon City. [Unsigned comment by 82.43.170.35 was added on 21 January].

  1. The reason for deleting the link to [http:// www thebestof.co.uk/merton thebestof.co.uk] is several fold:
    1. It is a localised section of a nationwide commercial portal site. - Therefore it is not local.
    2. It is a commercial franchise. I don't have any problem with franchises, but Wikipedia should not be treated as a free source of advertising.
    3. The majority of the content is paid-for local directory listings. There is a prominent "Advertise" button in the menu and the site admits its aims when it says "Thousands of businesses right across the UK are already alert to the huge benefits of being part of thebestof.co.uk."  :## It contains only a limited number of items under each of the directory heading. It is not comprehensive.
    4. The is no actual information on the history or character of the area. It therefore provides nothing extra to the article.
  2. Wimbledon.Visitor.com provides more local information but I'm going to delete that as well.
  3. WimbledonCity.co.uk appears to be alive although the hit rate on sections is low, the Forum has virtual no members or posts and large parts of the text are reproductions of the Wikipedia article. WimbledonCity is also going to be deleted.
--DavidCane 13:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
FYI, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam#thebestof.co.uk spam (January 2007). I broke the thebestof.co.uk link above since that domain is likely to get blacklisted at this rate.
Thanks for fighting spam! --A. B. (talk) 20:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Succession boxes for peerages

Hello. Would just like to let you known that it is not common practice to include all titles held by a peer in succession boxes, just the highest title. There are of course exceptions to this rule, for example when a peer is given a new title, then both peerages are included in separate succession boxes. Another exception is when a peer already holds one peerage and then succeeds to another, one example being when Edward Stanley, 4th Baron Stanley of Alderley succeeded to the barony of Sheffield in 1909 (however, the barony of eddisbury should not be included as this is a junior title to the barony of stanley). Also, we do not normally include ordinals in succession boxes for peerages. Regards, Tryde 17:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Greater London outline map

Just a line to say I haven't forgot about fixing this. I'll recify your concerns within the next 36 hours! Jhamez84 01:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I've made the changes. It is likely there could be others required yet. Feel free to contact me should you find any. I'm more than happy to get it accurate, it doesn't take too long. Jhamez84 13:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mass deletion of articles on London postcodes

User:MRSC has done a mass deletion of London postcode articles by turning them into redirects, and in consequence some relevant templates have also been deleted. I am looking at the London N articles but lack time to do more.--Osidge 19:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Have you seen Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London N1?--Londoneye 12:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)--Londoneye 12:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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