Talk:Davis & Company

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This is a Canadian law firm with appropriate wiki legal links. All information is verifiable at www.davis.ca. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laboud (talk • contribs) 04:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

This looks a lot like an advertisement to me. Although the statements may be accurate, the purpose of placing this appears to be to sell the services of the law firm. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.18.65.10 (talk • contribs) 00:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please clarify what is questionable on this page.

Just come right out and state the text in question.

First, please sign your remarks with ~~~~ so that we can all follow who is making which point. I will provide a couple of examples but I must say that this article blatently reads like an advert rather than a balanced description of the company. Here are just two of the worst examples of advert-ese:

  • Davis offers expertise [in] all areas of commercial law ... - commercial law is a vast topic. If we're going to say that the company has expertise across this hugh subject then we need really good citations. I suspect that the truth is that Davis can broadly cover commerical law. This over-egging is repeated elsewhere.
  • Davis is the only ... This is not just advertising, it's boasting. Take the example of "The only Canadian law firm with an office in Japan" - From reading the text then assuming that all is factually correct (I've no reason to doubt it) it would be far better to have a sub-section titled something like Japanese interests and then describe the company's involvement with Japanese-Canadians and Japan. Phrases like "championed the rights of" could be replaced by "acted to protect the legal interests of" or something like that. The other items is the "Davis is the only" list need similar work.

Accordingly, I'm putting the {{advert}} template back. Please don't remove it until the article is fixed. Greenshed 23:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm on the cusp of marking this whole article for speedy deletion. What do others think? Greenshed 23:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

In the interests of full disclosure, I should note that I work at this law firm and had no idea that we had a page. However, I am still going to make the case for keeping the page up, despite what I admit is a little bit of "advertising" by whoever started the page: first, Davis is one of the oldest firms in Vancouver and has a history in the city; not many law firms were kicking around here in 1892 that are STILL here, and for the reason alone it's worth mentioning..it's an institution, if you like. Second of all, there are a group of us who are regular contributors to a blog about video game law which is a free resource to the videogame community, and that blog receives a huge amount of traffic; myself and other contributors to this blog are frequently asked to give our opinions to the press and academic publications on video game issues such as video game legislation, video game violence, etc, and it's a genuine, bona fide, "no ads attached" resource which I think is worthy of mention. Finally, Davis' involvement with the Japanese community is more than marketing to that particular demographic, it's history, as the law firm represented Japanese internment camp survivors post-WWII who had lost their land in the "resettlement" of their community. Anyways, my point is, the page could be way more "advertise"-y than it is, with much more detail about our lawyers, our work, our clients, our achievements, bla bla bla. I think it errs to the side of not providing enough information about what Davis' current work is...as a client you couldn't decide whether we were the right firm for your needs based on the information on this page, and for that reason I think the tone of the page is appropriate to keep the page up.

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