Talk:Dante's Cove

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Contents 1 Sky House? 2 Clean Up 3 Episode Titles 4 Request for Comment: Language

[edit] Sky House?

Is there any real confirmation that Diana is of the Sky House? She references the Sun when she visits Ambrosius in his prison, but there's no verification of her association with the Sky is there?

It's implicit in the special effects from the final episode. Ambrosius's effects are red (Sun). Grace's effects are blue (Moon). Diana's effects are white (Sky, by elimination). She taught Ambrosius Sun Tresum because he's male. Otto4711 05:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean Up

Otto, thanks for cleaning up my "clean up". The only place that I strongly suggest restoring the additional spacing would be in the first section. This will create a sleeker look with regard to the infobox and the next header. Just my thoughts on the matter. I'd rather post here than risk getting caught up in "competitive editing". Griff 03:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The look is going to be different depending on what browser one is using. On my home browser the infobox stops right at the header. I'll look at it tomorrow at work with a different browser to see what it looks like. Otto4711 04:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

The page looks OK using both Internet Explorer and Safari. I made a couple more cosmetic fixes (spelled out numbers, etc.) and moved one picture to illustrate the tresum section. Otto4711 14:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode Titles

What is the source of the recently added "episode titles" ? The listed titles do not match the ones in my TiVo. Griff 12:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

No, they are wrong. I've removed them. Otto4711 13:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Can someone perhaps add something about the switch in filming venues from the Caribbean in Season 1 to Hawaii in Season 2 and the total lack of continuity in the sets and ambience of the show between seasons? Thanks.

Why not go ahead and add it yourself? Otto4711 20:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment: Language

i'm just wondering if the most recent edit Ambrosius being buggered by his valet is appropriate language for wikipedia. I've never really read the article properly before so hadn't noticed it until it was edited and then reverted. I do agree that he was most definitely being buggered by his valet, but as i said - is that the correct language to be used in a wikipedia article? The term "bugger" according to wikipedia itself is an expletive so i question its use in this article. Thoughts anyone? Princesskirsty 14:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I know we don't censor on Wikipedia, but I think we're trying for an encyclopaedic tone, which "bugger" definitely doesn't convey. If it was some sort of quote, like "I caught Ambrosius buggering the valet," that'd be one thing. But I think saying "having sex with" is perfectly accurate, less colloquial, and more NPOV, imho. --Ebyabe 15:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

God forbid we should use any but the driest, dullest language. "Bugger" is equally descriptive and more interesting word choice, and is not always an expletive per the article you cited. This is an article about a campy soap opera, I think it's all right to have a little fun with the language. Otto4711 15:56, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

but it CAN be an expletive, so why not change it to something less profane? This isn't exactly an appropriate place to be having "a little fun with the language". Princesskirsty 18:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a perfectly appropriate place to have a little fun with the language. Every place is an appropriate place to have fun with language. I don't find the fact that "bugger" can be taken as an expletive in certain circumstances, of which this is not one, to be a good reason for changing it. Otto4711 18:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Both buggery and sodomy have a long history, specific meaning and either are approriate here. Like many sexual words they now have an expletive meaning. Sanitising wikipedia is against policy (WP:CENSOR) and 'to have sex with' opens the doors to all sorts of Clintonesque ambiguities - let's call it as it is.--Joopercoopers 19:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

The meaning of bugger in Canadian and American English is almost totally expletive and disappearing very quickly. If you want to use colourful language then you could use 'fucked' as it is not particular to male or female. However I find it totally inappropriate for a neutral and thoughful information source. I would rather be fucked by my valet than buggered by him, just because bugger is such an archaic word that the valet sounds old! Also the word bugger, because of it's negative connotations, seems more violent than a more neutral phrase. I vote for 'penetrated.' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gebrelu (talk • contribs) 04:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

The scene in question takes place in the 1850s so if "bugger" is indeed archaic it fits well with the time period in question. Otto4711 00:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)