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Contents 1 What are some good books about this man? 2 Folklore 3 towns named for Daniel Boone 4 GA 5 Daniel Boone's relatives

[edit] What are some good books about this man?

147.9.201.80 22:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Some great books on Daniel Boone are listed below. I have read all of them and recommend them highly. Daniel Boone is a fascinating historical character.

• Bakeless, John (1965, original 1939). Daniel Boone. Harrison, PA: Stackpole Co.
• Boone, Daniel (1967, original 1784). The adventures of Colonel Daniel Boone, formerly a hunter: Containing a narrative of the wars of Kentucky with the discovery, purchase, and settlement of Kentucky, and the Piankashaw council, 1784, and Territory of North American Indians, and the Rights of Land in Kentucky. Old Chelicothe, 1967 reprint of John Filson's History of Kentucky as reprinted by Gilbert Imlay in his Topographical Description. 1797. Alvin Salisbury ed. [This is the original (and largely fictionalized) account of Daniel Boone]
• Draper, Lyman (1998). The life of Daniel Boone. Ted Franklin Belue ed. Mechanicsburg, PA: Stackpole Books. [This is one of the best sources on Daniel Boone. If you can only have three sources, this should be one of them]
• Lofaro, Michael (2003). Daniel Boone: an American Life. Lexington, KY: The UP of Kentucky.
• Sweeney, J. Gray (1992). The Columbus of the Woods: Daniel Boone and the typology of Manifest Destiny. St. Louis, MO: The Washington University Gallery of Art. [This book contains beautiful imagery of Daniel Boone and frontier imagery]

E. Conroy (4/4/06)147.9.201.80 22:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Missing from this list is John Mack Faragher's Daniel Boone: The Life and Legend of an American Pioneer (1992), the best scholarly biography, written in a very accessible style. Even Michael Lofaro, whose shorter biography is also good, calls Faragher's book the "best biography of Boone published to date". • Kevin (complaints?) 05:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Folklore

I am removing some controversial statements and commentary from the Folklore section, as the commentary added by 64.83.45.90 belongs on this discussion page, not in the article -- MarkBrooks 13:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• When he first met his wife Rebecca, he thought she was a deer in the dark woods, but couldn't shoot her because he never saw a deer with blue eyes before. He tracked her to her home and was smitten when he saw her. He continued to follow her around until she consented to marry him. [I challenge the source of this statement as well. Where has this "deer with blue eyes" tale about Rebecca ever been recorded, besides here?]

• He claimed he once killed a Yahoo, a hairy giant. [I challenge this -- where has it ever been reported, even anecdotedly, that Daniel Boone claimed he killed a Yahoo? Besides here.]

I am re-doing the above changes, which unfortunately got caught up in the Scottish-American (cat) revert wars -- MarkBrooks 02:27, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Just to clear up some old business: User:64.83.45.90 asked, "Where has this 'deer with blue eyes' tale about Rebecca ever been recorded, besides here?" The answer is: pretty much everywhere. It's a common Boone folk tale, recorded in most biographies (the modern ones of course identify it as an improbable folk tale). The "Yahoo" story can also be easily found -- apparently it's something Boone told his young grandchildren to amuse them. --Kevin Myers | (complaint dept.) 06:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

A supposed cast of the tree he famously engraved is located in the Grandfather Mountain museum in Linville, NC, near Boone, NC. The town of Boone, NC is named for Daniel Boone. Daniel Boone is also portrayed in the ongoing performance of the fictional outdoor drama "Horn in the West" in Boone, NC. There are two memorials to Daniel Boone in Boone, NC: a statue of Boone sitting next to some coon hounds and a campfire in front of Newland Hall near the intersection of Rivers Street and Stadium Drive, and a memorial obelisk at the corner of Rivers Street and Moretz Street.

A tree purported to be inscribed by Daniel Boone is also located in the museum of The Filson Historical Society in Louisville, Kentucky. The inscription reads "D. Boon kill a bar, 1803." The tree was discovered in the early 20th century, cut down, and is now preserved in a glass case at the Filson.

[edit] towns named for Daniel Boone

Are all the towns named Danville [Ohio Ky? and Illinois and even Caifornia] like town named Bonville named after Daniel Boone?

[edit] GA

This article is quite clearly a GA. I'm surprised that someone didn't nominate it earlier. Some P. Erson 15:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel Boone's relatives

The favorite topic of "drive-by" additions to this article seems to involve supposed relatives of Daniel Boone. The most recent ones are:

1. George and Mary Boone were also the common ancestors of singer Loretta Lynn and her husband. [1]
2. A cousin Thomas Boone was married to a Susannah Brumfield; reportably a distant relative of Susannah Brumfield married a Nancy Lincoln-aunt of President Abraham Lincoln.[2]
3. Mary Boone was said to have been a Morgan and a relative of General Daniel Morgan of the Revolutionary War. [3]

The third one had the advantage of being referenced. However, these alleged connections are all trivia. The best way to determine if a relationship is significant enough to include in an encyclopedia article is: do Boone biographers mention it? Bakeless and Faragher, for example, did not find Boone's supposed kinship to Daniel Morgan significant enough to mention in 300 or 400 pages of biography, which suggests it's too trivial for our encylopedia article. If you have come here to add some distant relative of Boone to the article, take a look at the biographies first to see if Boone scholars found the connection notable enough to mention. —Kevin 02:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

This is a spurious argument, that something is not encyclopedic because it is not included in a biography. They are not equal, the simple test is "is something not biographical because it is not in an encyclopedia" doesn't make sense. Genealogical connections of consequence are almost always non-trivial, historic and of encyclopedic value.Tstrobaugh 16:41, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense. An encyclopedia article on a person is biography in miniature. If published scholars thought a piece of information was too trivial to be included in a full-length biography, that's a pretty good indication that the information is indeed trivial. We're here to summarize what scholars have published on various topics, not to second guess their decisions. Also, keep in mind this dictum: "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of items of information. That something is 100% true does not mean it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia." —Kevin 22:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not nonsense. You’re wrong that an article in an encyclopedia is a miniature biography. At least now we can put our finger on the problem. How did you develop this opinion? Let's start here; Define the terms biographical and encyclopedic. Is one narrow and one more encompassing? Of course a biography will not deal with other peoples lives (that were not a direct influence), an encyclopedia however by its very nature will include relevant historical information. Genealogy is not indiscriminant, if you can show that it is I'll withdraw.Tstrobaugh 04:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

"Genealogical connections of consequence are almost always non-trivial, historic and of encyclopedic value." / "Genealogy is not indiscriminant." I agree completely. That's why I have no problem with this article mentioning Boone's parents, brother, and children. Those people are obviously "relevant" and "of consequence". But are Daniel Morgan and Loretta Lynn "relevant" and "of consequence"? Please demonstrate that they are Tstrobaugh. Punctured Bicycle 13:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)