Talk:Dance Dance Revolution SuperNOVA

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Contents 1 Citations Needed...everywhere 2 Changed the Home Versions section 3 Releases 4 Should this article be rewritten? 5 Flashing 10s 6 The Groove Radar 7 OMES Requirements 8 Criticism section cleanup 9 American Release Number 10 Scoring inconsistencies 11 Song lists are deleted 12 SuperNOVA2

[edit] Citations Needed...everywhere

Is it not disturbing that this article, while being quite long, lacks a single source? Sources that might detail the game mechanics that the article's section could lead to, claims about EXTREME 2 starting as an April Fool's Joke, and that's only the tip of the iceburg <_<--Naruttebayo 22:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Changed the Home Versions section

Changed release date for European version to correct date and also made some cleanups. (Cipher Destiny 22:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Releases

"The European version will be its eighth arcade release, and the first since Dancing Stage Fusion in 2004."

Eighth arcade release doesn't seem correct to me, if it is, i'd like to know the list. -- kuno.

• Refer to DDR Freak [1]: Dancing Stage (Dancing Stage and Dancing Stage 1.5 count as the same, since they have almost the same song list), Dancing Stage EuroMIX, Dancing Stage EuroMIX 2, Dancing Stage featuring Disney's Rave, Dancing Stage featuring True Kiss Destination, Dancing Stage featuring Dreams Come True, Dancing Stage Fusion and Dancing Stage SuperNOVA. --Kitch 18:06, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Way late response, but Disney's Rave, TKD, and DCT, despite carrying the 'Dancing Stage' moniker, were Japanese-only releases. I'll be bold and change the article to reflect what I believe was the correct number, 5th. UOSSReiska 22:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

This article was nominated for deletion on January 16, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

Actually the correct answer would be Sixth. Dancing Stage Disney, DS Dreams Come True, and DS True Kiss Dest are japenese, not european games.

[edit] Should this article be rewritten?

It's pretty much a carbon copy of Dance Dance Revolution EXTREME. Does it have to talk about all of this stuff as if it's new? I know some of it is, but not all of it. Royboycrashfan 05:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

I rewrote some parts a couple days ago UOSSReiska 20:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flashing 10s

I'm going to redefine "Flashing 10" where it appears in the article. I used to think that Flashing 10s meant an extra difficulty (an "11" if you will), but this isn't the case. Flashing 10s are applied to songs that are considered boss songs for that mix. Example: Sakura was a regular 10 in Extreme ARC, but it was a boss song in Festival, so it was flashing (in Festival, the only harder song was Outer Limits, I believe) . Example 2: Paranoia Survivor Heavy was also a regular 10 in Extreme ARC but a flasher in Extreme 2 US.

There's no clinching proof of what a flashing-10 really means, but perhaps the beta-testers of SuperNOVA could inform us if The Legend of Max is or is not a flasher in SuperNOVA?--Headcase 17:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Groove Radar

Whoever wrote the Groove radar section might not have their facts right, imo. ~VGN~

[edit] OMES Requirements

You don't need to get an A on extra stage to get Chaos on OMES. I was able to get it by clearing Healing-D-Vision with a B, so I believe a pass is sufficient, so I took out that little bit (perhaps that was changed sometime between the beta and final releases? I'm not too sure). --Spectere 00:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism section cleanup

I'm too tired/don't have time to look up proper sourcing right now, but the criticism section needs a little cleanup - it mentions Konami's recent addressing of SuperNOVA's timing issues, but fails to mention that the problem Konami is now addressing is not the same problem of overly wide timing windows that was seen during the beta, but in fact overly *narrow* timing windows which occur as a result of software bugs causing inconsistent sync. UOSSReiska 22:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Release Number

The article cites the game as being the fourth American DDR AC release. I am almost positive this is the third (behind 2000's DDR USA and 1999's US-oriented DDR1.5-esque offshoot) but in case I am mistaken...what is the other game and where does it fall in the lineage? Gerk 07:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scoring inconsistencies

The part about the scoring doesn't really add up. The three key facts claimed are:

• Dance point scoring: Perfect = 2, Great = 1, Freeze OK = 6.
• Machine scoring: Perfect = 10M/n, Great = 10M/2n (n = number of steps), nothing said about freezes
• Machine score = Dance point percentage * 100,000.

At least one of these have to be wrong (assuming a song has any freezes at all) -- I'd guess the second one. Could anyone find the facts and correct the article? - Sesse, 09:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Update: Oh, and there's also the rounding issues. If a song would theoretically have three steps (counting for 3,333,333 each), where would the last point go -- on the second step (since that's when 20M/3 gets rounded upwards, to 6,666,667 if the canonical rule is #3) or on the last step (if it's a perfect), as has been the custom with earlier mixes?

Easy fix with the Machine scoring, simply replace "n" with (n+3f) where f equals freezes (the 2 would tag the entire parenthesis, making Greats equal, effectively, 10M/2n+6f. As for the rounding issues...I would imagine the last step would enjoy the "extra" point. However, with that said I feel such an inconsequential point of the scoring system does not warrant addition to the article. Gerk 09:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Song lists are deleted

Well, the DDR song lists are deleted. Should notable SN songs be merged into this article or what do you guys think?Does this mean we're not allowed to merge songs in because of the AfD decision? <^blahy^gu_gsa295_blah 05:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SuperNOVA2

I haven't seen any information regarding SuperNOVA2 here in Wikipedia. Should information regarding DDR SuperNOVA2 be included in this article or be included in a separate article? Adavalosjr 04:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)