Talk:Dai dai shogi
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Dai dai shogi was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake.
Date of review: 10 Dec 2006 |
[edit] Move set confusion
A great deal of the move sets are incorrect. If the Japanese wiki is the only source it is also incorrect. Try looking at the history of chess page cited at the bottom of this wiki for correct moves per George Hodges. He got the rules DIRECTLY from authorities on the matter in Japan.
DDS is a great game... I highly recommend it!
-Shumby
- Thanks. I did need to proof this article. The problem in that Hodges is also several steps removed from the original docs. I've asked for help on Japanese wiki and been given refs, but no direct answers with the discrepencies.
- Japanese wiki in down right now, but here's the problems I see that I have yet to note on the page: Great elephant, great dragon,
savage tiger.
- PS. The great dragon move is too interesting to be a mere misreading. kwami 22:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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- All right, the great dragon and great elephant need alt diagrams, but I don't have time for that right now. kwami 23:16, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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- That should do it. kwami 08:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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Kwami
Thank you for putting in the "alt" diagrams. This certainly helps people at least make up their own minds on the game's rules. But to those reading this article who may be new to Dai Dai shogi... please consider the "English" source version, as it's been verified numerous times. (if you can find the ORIGINAL documents I'd love to see them!!!!)
To the comment on the Great Dragon's interesting move set in the Japanese wiki... I'd like to point out that "interesting" doesn't mean correct. If you'll take notice to the Japanese wiki's contradiction
you'll see the promoted Kylin is also called a Great Dragon and moves as the "English" sources dictate. There cannot be two pieces on the board with the same name and identifying kanji that move differently. That makes no sense at all.
But again, I do thank you on behalf of the Western shogivar community for the update. I do hope the confusion clears in due time.
-Shumby
[edit] Article review
This is a great artivle! Have you considered posting it for review in the japanese wiki and here? Sj
[edit] Failed GA
I speedy failed this article for Good Article status. Based on the time of my review: [1], the article does not have use sources. Please read again WP:CITE and supply this article with reliable sources to support the three pillars of Wikipedia: verifiable, no original research elements and neutral point of view. The article is also very long (>100Kb) which is not appropriate per WP:MOS. The reason is that the current article looks like a manual for the game itself, rather than an encyclopaedia article. Please read again what is not a WP article. If all of these matters are resolved, then you can resubmit this article again for GA. — Indon (reply) — 13:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
