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Archives April 2006 - November 2006

Contents 1 D-Generation X song 2 Should we mention this? 3 Should We Add Them? 4 Should the rumour about X-Pac coming back be added? 5 Is John Cena going to join D-X? 6 Title History 7 Cena Peripheral Member 8 Cena and Flair 9 The Number 69 10 DX'ng the building 11 In wrestling

[edit] D-Generation X song

anyone knows what it's called, and who sings it? 80.178.221.17 15:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Even though this isn't a forum, I'll be nice and tell you. Its called "Break It Down" by the DX band. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  21:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

And you have to be careful not to confuse them with Rage Against the Machine...they sound pretty close to them..when I first heard the song years ago, I swore it was them..lol --Mikecraig 21:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, same here. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  21:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Rage did do a version of it for them tho and it's on one of there albums!! --Shaunkelly101 22:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

After a little research, I found him. He has his own wikipedia article - Chris Warren. MFuture 19:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should we mention this?

Road dog and Jeff Jarrett went outside kayfabe and called HHH and HBK by their real names. (also my dream of a complete DX reunion was crushed). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.68.211.16 (talk) 02:47, 17 November, 2006 (UTC)

What they did on iMPACT! this week I think was worth mentioning but I'm not quite sure how we can incorporate that into the article. --Aaru Bui ^DII 01:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I added it in. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  18:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

and I removed it. it's got little bearing on DX unless they react to it, I don't think it's worth giving notice to since it's simply a desperate attempt by TNA to latch on to DX's current success and doesn't really affect them in any way. --Shaunkelly101 22:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

You don't know if their going to respond to it, so until they do/don't, leave it in. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  00:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No your right I don't so until it actually affects them it should be left out. I'm saying this in reference to your previous opinions on the crotch chop topic. VKM are seperate, just because they refer to DX doesn't mean the effect them!--Shaunkelly101 00:14, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The VKM incident from last week should be mentioned in this article because they were both key members in DX. I'm not saying a separate section but maybe a brief mention of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.13.59.20 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC).

I'm going to say leave it out until it becomes notable. Unless DX responds, or VKM actually does something to carry out their "threats", it really isn't notable. -- THL^CCD 23:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Well VKM showed up at a WWE house show in Connecticut and forced the crowd near them into a TNA chant. I think that is enough to mention something in this article.

Was DX at the house show? -- THLR^CCD 04:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and DX acknowledged them in the crowd. --  Mikedk9109  (hit me up)  20:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we should mention it then. I'm not sure what context, if that's the right word, we should use to do so, however. It might be best to wait until the next impact to see how TNA portrays this before we do anything. Adding current events is fine, but sometimes it helps to wait and see exactly how to portray the event. -- THLR^CCD 22:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

TNA didn't even mention it! I'm shocked. Go ahead and add it however you want, just don't assume anything. Cheers, -- THLR 22:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should We Add Them?

Should we add CM Punk, and The Hardyz in the peripheral member space, being as they teamed with them for one night, on a team called Team DX. Mannytime 01:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

No because it was just one night. DXRAW

Even multiple times wouldn't make much of a difference. --Aaru Bui ^DII 09:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Could someone please add the logo's that DX has used in the past and their current one to this page.Big Boss 0 17:18, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

i cant see why not, Kane in August is downa as a member, why not Punk and The Hardys?

Because they were teaming with DX under different circumstances then Kane. -- THL 22:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should the rumour about X-Pac coming back be added?

It's already added on his wiki so I was wondering if his appearance and interest to come back to RAW should be put into the DX category. I think we all know DX is hurting with one member and this could be big. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Watchmedie85 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

No, it shouldn't be added. It is nothing but rumor and speculation, which is inherently unencyclopedic. -- The Hybrid 05:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is John Cena going to join D-X?

Now that Cena is Tag champ with HBK should he be included in dx since michals can no longer challenge cena at wrestle mania? westhoff 85 8:25 1/30/2007

Possibly he will, however don't add anything to the article saying Cean is a member of DX yet. Yes, there are rumors that Cena will be officially joining DX in the storyline somewhere very soon. However, as of yet, these are just rumors and can not be confirmed until he does, if he does.

[edit] Title History

There should be a title history section on this page because DX has a high level of titles compared to oter stables ever in WWE. Don't u think they deserve a title section!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.108.229.13 (talk) 09:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree!! The NWO should have one too. The NWO and DX are the most important factions in the history of Sports Entertainment...ever!! If other factions have title histories, then these two definitely should. However, do you know how much research you would have to do, in order to compile this?? HAHAHAHA!!!--Prince Patrick 15:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

It'd be fairly easy to do for DX just a matter of matching up times. The trouble is with nWo, that would be fairly convoluted (as per WCW storylines at the time). And if nWo and DX had title sections then what about the Four Horsemen? It could get quite out of hand. I'd be interested to see what other people think. Suriel1981 17:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh man. You're right. DX would be fairly easy. There’s actually a page with this information, but it’s the complete title history of each of the members, and not just when the member was apart of the faction. http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wwf/dxhist.htm. Now I know this is not "official", but we could use this as a guide to the "Actual" DX Title history. There is also one for the NWO. http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/nwohist.htm. What do you think??--Prince Patrick 17:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cena Peripheral Member

he should be included in the Peripheral members, from the date he and hbk won the titles to the day he looses the titles, just seems to make sense since hes going to have to tag with hbk, a dx member, for a while he will be a Peripheral Member Overlordneo 07:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a very awkward situation, as he will also be feuding with HBK. I say we wait just a little longer. Cheers, -- The Hybrid 07:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Cena is not a member, and neither is Flair. I don't know why this on user keeps putting them back in. TJ Spyke 05:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

And I don't know why this user keeps removing them. Oh well. I have better things to do than argue when I'm right, so go ahead, remove them again or whatever. I'll be back tomorrow. Drake Clawfang 05:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cena and Flair

Let's settle this. Should they be listed? Both hav only teamed up with DX a couple of times and were never even close to being members. The most I would consider them is allies of DX. TJ Spyke 06:05, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

There's no difference really. And them saying "He's a member of DX" does not just make them automatic inclusions and vise-versa. They said Tyson was one of them, and he refed one match for them. Cena and Flair have done a lot for DX than Tyson or Kane or a lot of the members. Plus, with the way the storyline is heading, Cena's liable to join officially anyways, the rumors of such aside. Drake Clawfang 06:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so don't assume anything. What has Flair done for DX? He came out to help them ONCE. Kane teamed with X-Pac for several months (winning the tag belts in the process) and even changed from red to green and was as close to being a member as you can be without actually joining. Tyson was also a major part of the DX storyline for a couple of months (making national headlines). Cena has teamed up a couple of times, and their winning the belts (which will be temporary) is no more notable than Batista and Mysterio or any other temporary team WWE has done before. Allies ≠ Peripheral members. TJ Spyke 06:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

You complain about me using a crystal ball, then claim Cena and Michael's reign will not be notable and is temporary? As for Flair, he's teamed with them several times, they've said they consider him a personal friend, and took out the Spirit Squad for him. Drake Clawfang 06:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

6 man tag matches with faces and heels teaming up from completely unrelated angles is common place. That is why Flair doesn't qualify, and part of the reason Cena doesn't. As for Cena and Michaels as a team, crystal balls aside, they are currently feuding, and are not on the same page. To quote HBK, "Cena is a good partner, but he's no Triple H." As of right now, Cena isn't a peripheral member. Peace, -- The Hybrid 06:42, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not just the six-man match, Cena has also successfully defended his title against Edge with help from DX twice in 2006. That also counts for something. And since it seems 'Taker has challenged Cena, until Monday we don't know the state of the feud. I say we wait until Monday, and if Cena and Michaels are still feuding then, then yes, I'll agree he should be taken off. As for Flair, I still think he should stay. As mentioned, DX took out the Spirit Squad for him and said outright they consider him a close friend. Drake Clawfang 06:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Which would make Flair an ally. DX also considered Earl Hebner a close friend, but he wouldn't be considered a member. RAW ended with HBK about to superkick Cena and they looked like they were about to come to blows on SmackDown, they are still very much feuding and not on the same page. It's like when Michaels and Austin won the titles when they were feuding. Allies and friends (especially temporary ones) are not the same as being members (or peripheral members). TJ Spyke 06:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Would you care to explain what you believe the difference is between peripheral members and allies? Drake Clawfang 06:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

They saved his title to piss off Edge, not help Cena. Also, they didn't take out the SS for Flair; they did it because they were, "Sick and tired of kicking their asses." Also, you've already been reported for 3RR, so I suggest you stop adding it to the article, as I'm a fresh man. We can finish sorting this out until and after your block expires, but let's stop destroying the page history. Peace, -- The Hybrid 06:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I know about the 3RR report, that's why I'm not rving it again. As for Edge, really, their motives are up for interpretation one way or the other. And, as another note on Cena, don't forget he once did the DX crotchchops with them when they teams up. Drake Clawfang 06:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The crotch chops were, IMO, to get a cheap crowd pop. Anyway, since all of this is up for interpretation, adding it to the article is original research. -- The Hybrid 06:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

That's true, a greal deal of the peripheral members are OR. Should we perhaps remove all of them (being serious, not sarcastic). Drake Clawfang 07:04, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Other than Neidhart they really aren't disputable. What they did obviously put them close to being members without being official. -- The Hybrid 07:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree about Neidhart. All they did was pretend he was a member so they could attack him right afterwards. TJ Spyke 07:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I took him out. -- The Hybrid 07:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Any good reason Cena and Flair should be kept in? It's clear Cena isn't even close to being a member, and Flair is an ally at best. If their are no objections, I will remove them tomorrow. TJ Spyke 05:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Falir recently has been wearing DX shirts here recently and Cena is half of the World Tag Team Champions with Shawn Michaels. They are both potential members of DX for these reasons and it is possible that they will become full time members. Big Boss 0 00:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

The fact that Cena does crotch-chops is a poor reason for inclusion. In my younger, less mature years I used to do occasionally do crotch chops when drunk, either at policemen or chicks that annoyed me. That didn't make me a member of DX, it just made me look like a wanker.

Seriously though, Flair and Cena should not be on the list. Suriel1981 08:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Does anybody object to remoing them? I will wait a day or so, and if nobody objects then I will remove them. TJ Spyke 06:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I feel that Flair and Cena both deserve to stay. Cena has been aided numerous times by DX with retaining his WWE Championship and Flair has teamed with HBK and HHH during tours where one member was absent and more recently helped defeat the spirit squad. Big Boss 0 15:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Really, it's all up to interpretation and personal opinion. Wikipedia is not a democracy, and original research is not allowed, which is what the entire peripheral members section is. I'm removing it again. Drake Clawfang 16:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. They should not be included. They were not official members.--Prince Patrick 14:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Same here. If they started a complete association with DX, like wearing the merch, and entering with them and doing DX stuff, then they would warrant adding. Killswitch Engage 05:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Flair wrestled a house show in the Summer of 2006 where Triple H introduced him as "temporary member" of DX, Flair wore a DX shirt to the ring and added the "suck it" to the end of Trips' speeach. Does that count? Bringthenoise 19:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Found a link to confirm: http://www.wrestleview.com/results/houseshows/houseshows2006/1152429435.shtml Bringthenoise 20:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Number 69

Does anyone now why DX had "69" on their specialized jerseys they wore?? 71.135.186.207 06:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Check 69 (sex position) and the fact that their catchphrase is "Suck It!". TJ Spyke 05:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DX'ng the building

Should there be some mention of when DX put the logo over the McMahon headquarters in Stamford? Plus as far as i remember when i watched it live the sign was put up backwards....Should this be mentioned?--SteelersFan UK06 17:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In wrestling

Shouldn't we mention their finishers / signature moves on the DX article? Zerorules677 9:24, 05 March 2007 (UTC)