Talk:CVSNT

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I suggest adding a unique Wikipedia entry for CVSNT and doing something to handle searches for CVS Suite (the commercial version of CVSNT), eg: a separate page or a redirect to CVSNT.

See also the discussion page for Talk:Concurrent_Versions_System.

Here are some draft pages (certainly still need some work): User:ArthurBarrett/CVSNT and User:ArthurBarrett/CVS Suite. Please post in the discussion of those pages, or here what changes you would suggest / like to see.


Suggested Categories for CVSNT article are: "Software engineering" and "Free version control systems". Suggested Categories for CVS Suite article are: "Software engineering" and "Proprietary version control systems".


Adding these articles would also require some minor changes to the "Concurrent Versions System" page, eg::

Contents

[edit] DevGuy's Official CVS Software List

I didn't want to add software to the 'related software' list that I haven't tested with CVSNT, so I wouldn't know if any significant compatibility problems exist. If someone could expand upon the list, including only the software that works fine with CVSNT, that'd help. ---Fractal3 18:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See also

  • CVS Suite - a commercially supported versioning software and defect management suite
  • CVSNT - a free modern CVS with rename, audit, change management

[edit] References

  • March Hare Software: All About CVS: How to Design and Build an Effective CM solution using TortoiseCVS, WinCVS, Bugzilla on Windows and Linux (2005), purchase eBook online

[edit] Limitations

After itemised list, but before notes on Subversion. Since a paragraph in the article already discussed Subversion as a solution to the limitations then I believe it is entirely acceptable to discuss CVSNT as a solution for the limitations.

Users unhappy with these limitations began the development of CVSNT and released the first version in 1999 replacing CVS. Linux and Unix support was re-added in early 2002, rename, Unicode and change management support was added in 2004.

[edit] Biased march-hare.com comparison

Fractal3 (talk • contribs) has added the link (http://march-hare.com/cvspro/svn.htm) to both the Subversion article and this one. It's pretty clearly biased. Not only does the column for CVSNT show all YES's, but I'm pretty sure some of the NO's for SVN are incorrect. The comparison is 8 months old - SVN 1.3 has since been released.

The biggest doozie though was when I saw this on the page:

March Hare Software provide CVS Professional Support and CVSNT worldwide.

And then:

March Hare Software provide Installation, training, support and builds for OS/400 V4R5,
V5R1 and later to Support Multi Site Plus and Support Enterprise customers.

Bingo! We have essentally an advertisement spreading misinformation, not a fair comparison. I've removed the link from the Subversion article and I'm tempted to remove it from this one as well. What do other people think? Imroy 00:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right really. It can't stay. It would be best if a WP article was made on the pros and cons of each. When I have enough free time I'll start one, unless someone else does.---Fractal3 01:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
This question has been asked quite a number of times on the CVSNT newsgroup - yes the SVN/CVSNT comparison on the march-hare page is a marketing document for CVSNT, not an independant review of the two systems, and I think it states that quite clearly. I'd like to see such an independant review, but if one is done there should be a request for input from the architects from both systems since they have different design goals - it's like comparing a scooter to a Hummer, yes you can do it, but any "summary" is going to be skewed because they are clearly designed for different people/uses. I also argue that the march-hare site is no different to the subversion collabnet site which compares SVN features to a CVS implementation that has been feature stagnant for 8 years... In summary I agree that a WP page is a good idea, but someone has to volunteer to get it started and preferably with some sort of outline that does not predispose a particular "outcome" Arthur 23:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This looks more like an Ad Campaign

I have noted that the content of this page is VERY biased towards March Hare. Wikipedia is NOT a commercial for their services. I also note that links from other commercial vendors in favour of their own. (said by 86.128.243.105)

An Ad campaign for CVSNT on the CVSNT page? Advertising presumably means describing the Features, History and status and related articles and web sites? I suppose that the Apache_HTTP_Server article advertises the Apache HTTP Server and the Apache_Software_Foundation too - quick let's delete it!
You haven't specified what about this page is biased towards March Hare? The bulk of the text (the Feature section) was added by User:Aming which User:Gronky recently wikified. If you care to submit some text that better explains CVSNT then go right ahead - that is what the Wiki is for isn't it?
Since March Hare are the primary developers and hosts the downloads of CVSNT then the primary links are going to point to March Hare.
Please use a signature when you leave a comment... Arthur 00:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
OK unnnamed person (you know who you are presumably) - sticking advert markers in this article (particularly when you are not logged in) does not constitute a helpful or worthwhile amendment. I've combined the two Features sections because it did not seem like User:Aming was going to come back and fix it and it seems this unnamed person considers themselves an expert on the topic of CVSNT but not enough so to take the time to improve the entry. Arthur 21:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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