Talk:Cutter (ship)

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the photo shows a boat with 2 masts. Is this not then a yawl (as the mizzen appears to be stepped aft of the rudder post)?

If this in indeed a cutter, the defnition of cutter on sail-plan needs fixing becuse otherwise it os not a cutter(not official looking)..

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[edit] Is this OK?

I haven't a copy of the reference in the text so I can't check to see how we have come by the rather misleading information in the article. I include below, what I propose as an improvement. (RJP 20:55, 19 February 2006 (UTC))

For other uses, see Cutter (ship) (disambiguation).
The 'cutter' Mutin, one of the training sail ships of the French Navy. Forget the mizzen and this looks like a cutter. As in English, so the French word chaloupe covers a range of small vessel. That in the picture however, would normally be called a yawl, though it is on the borderline of being a ketch. Both those words are used in both languages.
The 'cutter' Mutin, one of the training sail ships of the French Navy. Forget the mizzen and this looks like a cutter. As in English, so the French word chaloupe covers a range of small vessel. That in the picture however, would normally be called a yawl, though it is on the borderline of being a ketch. Both those words are used in both languages.

A cutter is any of several types of boat or ship and can be demonstrated by the terms "cutter rigged ketch" " cutter rigged yawl" or in the case of the Mutin, a gaff rigged, cutter yawl.

[edit] Sailing

A classic cutter is a sailing vessel with more than one head sail and one mast. In a traditional vessel there would normally be also, a bowsprit to carry the topmast forestay with the jib hanked to it. (The sloop carries only one head sail, properly called a foresail though nowadays usually called a jib.) Correctly speaking, a jib is set on the topmast forestay.

The term is English in origin and refers to a specific type of vessel, namely, a , decked boat with one mast and usually a bowsprit, traditionally with a gaff mainsail, though not invariably so. The foot of the mainsail would normally be laced to a boom and the head to a gaff above which a (gaff) topsail would be set (as in the picture) in suitable conditions. There would also be a foresail and jib and possibly a flying jib set above the jib.

[edit] Pulling

A pulling cutter was a boat carried by sailing ships for work in fairly sheltered water in which load-carrying capacity was needed, for example in laying a kedge. This operation was the placing a relatively light anchor at a distance from the ship so as to be able to haul her off in its direction. The oars were double-banked. That is, there were two oarsmen on each thwart. In a seaway, the longboat was preferred to the cutter as the finer lines of the stern of the former meant that it was less likely to broach to in a following sea. In the Royal Navy the cutters were replaced by 25 and 32 foot motor cutters. However, as ships became larger, some of the cutters' traditional work had grown beyond the capacity of a boat. Though primarily a pulling boat, this cutter could also be rigged for sailing.

[edit] Revenue

Historically, a cutter is any seaworthy vessel used in law enforcement duties of Great Britain's Royal Customs Service, United States Department of the Treasury's Revenue Cutter Service (1790 to 1915) which merged in 1915 to become United States Coast Guard, or the equivalent in other fleets. They were commonly schooners or brigs. In Britain, the Revenue worked mainly with other vessels as hulks moored in such places as coastal creeks from which officers worked in boats. This is how HMS Beagle ended her days.

[edit] US Coastguard

Cutters in the modern Coast Guard are fast, lightly-armed and frequently used in patrol work.

In the U.S. Coast Guard, a "cutter" is any Coast Guard vessel, with a permanently assigned crew and accommodations for the extended support of that crew. See chapter 10 USCG Regulations (Cutters are traditionally 65 ft. or greater in length). Larger cutters, over 180 feet (55 m) in length, are under control of area commands (Atlantic area or Pacific area). Cutters at or under 180 feet in length come under control of district commands. Cutters usually have a motor surf boat and/or a rigid hull inflatable boat on board. Polar Class icebreakers also carry an Arctic survey boat (ASB) and landing craft.

[edit] Picture

I think the second picture, shown on discussion page, is inappropriate in that for it to even look like a cutter you need to "forget the mizzen" and therefore it is not a cutter, and should not be on this page. Rico 00:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External links

Cutters are single masted, fore and aft rigged sailing vessels and are used in the Daniel Coast guard and in the u.S. coast Guard

[edit] self injury

I think a search for "cutter" should redirect to self injury. Almost 100% of the use of the word "cutter" refers to the wrist slitter's concept. Then this page should be moved to "cutter (ship)". If nobody is willing to argue it I think I'll go ahead and change it and see how it works out. Randy6767 00:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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