Talk:Curse of the Colonel

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[edit] citation needed?

This article has been sprinkled quite liberally with "citation needed" tags. However, as mentioned in the references, the majority of the information in the article comes from the Osaka Info Guide, and English-language tourist guide to Osaka that is given out in the American Embassy, Tourist Information centers, English-language book stores, and pretty much everywhere else. It had an extensive article on Dotonbori, which included the information on the Curse of the Colonel.

Is there some reason why this reference isn't good enough? If not, why, and what further citations are needed? Thanks! MightyAtom 23:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, added the requested citations.MightyAtom 04:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

The infoboxes for people associated with the curse are unnecessary. You might possibly include pictures but the whole box really only goes on the biography page for the individual. Eluchil404 05:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I went ahead and took them out. MightyAtom 06:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :

1. Well written? Fail
2. Factually accurate? Pass
3. Broad in coverage? Fail
4. Neutral point of view? Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images? Fail


Additional comments :

  • Can you change the floating value of the pictures as they are messing up the look in my browser, I see weird tabs inserted.
  • The inline citations should come after punctuation in WP.
  • There are many weasel words to describe the event in 1985 Japan Championship series that should be removed.
  • so the curse is presumably intact. can a citation be given for that?
  • There is not enough context pertaining to the construction of the bridge for one to be situated in that part of the text.
  • What happened during the other years, did they loose every game, did they fail to be in the championship.
  • Did this curse have any effect outside of the baseball world (except the rebuilding of the bridge)?
  • Image:Randy Bass.jpg and Image:Hanshintigerslogo.png should state their fair use rationale.

Lincher 17:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I will get to work on that right away! One question regarding the fair use rationale. I'm afraid I don't really understand what that means. I took both of those pictures from existing wikipedia sites, so I figured they were OK. How do I state the fair use rationale? MightyAtom 08:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Just glean the fair use rationale from the image Image:AlainProst Face.jpg which is a model I use. Lincher 11:32, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed article

OK, I think I have addressed all of the concerns above! MightyAtom 04:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

The reference number and inline citation number don't match, why? Lincher 11:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Probably because I am bad at the technical aspects of wikipedia...:( I will try and fix it.MightyAtom 12:45, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Taken care of the problem ... I hope you aren't angry with the format change. Lincher 19:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, that's great! Thanks! I will try and study up on how to do that on my own. MightyAtom 04:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA passed

1. Well written? Pass
2. Factually accurate? Pass
3. Broad in coverage? Pass
4. Neutral point of view? Pass
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images? Pass

The article now meets the requirements and is of GA status. Lincher 19:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor point

Looked through the article and I was just curious as to what the statue was made out of. Plaster? Plastic? Concrete? Stone? Wood? Perakhantu 18:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Its made of plastic. I will be sure to add that. They are so common in Japan, I tend to forget that everyone doesn't know exactly what they are! MightyAtom 00:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allusions and references

Weirdly, a random chain of web links led me to this article about two weeks after reading Haruki Murakami's "Kafka on the Shore" (in English translation), a book where there's a fairly substantial episode involving some sort of metaphysical entity that chooses to present itself in the form of Colonel Sanders. While reading, it pretty much washed over me as just another odd detail, but now that I know about the Curse of the Colonel, it has more resonance, especially given other baseball references in the book -- like how the guy the "Colonel" is dealing with is constantly identified with the Chunichi Dragons. And how the main characters are all drawn from central Japan down through Kansai and then across a big bridge (to Takamatsu). Anyway, I'm completely incompetent to write about Japanese culture, so don't ask me to do it, but I wonder if it might be an interesting section to add: something about how the Curse has been referred to or used as a plot element or an illustration in art or pop culture.

-- Anonymous non-wiki-participant

   0608 4 Jan 2007 (UTC)
I'm afraid that I have never read that book, so I don't really know how it might be relevant. Also, unless someone else made the connection first, or it is mentioned explicitly, original research can't be done on wikipedia. MightyAtom 03:24, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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