Talk:Curonian Spit

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Comments	M.K. 13:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Encyclopedia is not a newspaper

Each session of the Committee examines dozens of such proposals, should we flood encyclopedia with these current issues? France is full of nuclear stations - should we mention the fact in any article on French WHS? When the patrimony is inscribed in the list of WHS in Danger, then we'll record the fact here. So far, there are only Lithuanian speculations. Remember, you are editing encyclopedia and not a newspaper. --Ghirlandajo 3 July 2005 13:45 (UTC)

Whatever you say, the danger is a real fact. I took vacations at the spit about 20 years ago. Already at these times both the sea and the bay sides were gravely polluted. I did not see much damage to the dunes, though, but unlike the water, this probably requres an expert to estimate. mikka (t) 4 July 2005 22:39 (UTC)

I do not dispute the damage. The way the article currently has this: "There is an opinion that the ecosystem is endangered..." is not worthy of WP. Whoever brings this into the article, please write there a respectable source that quotes whose opinion this is. Again, I do not want to cast my doubt at the damage itself. -Irpen July 5, 2005 05:48 (UTC)

As it says: it's the opinion of World Heritage Committee. I've rephrased the sentence to hopefully sound clearer. --Lysy (talk) 5 July 2005 08:09 (UTC)

Yes, it looks better this way. Another thing, currently the World Heritage List issue is duplicated in the article. The article is short enough and there is not need, I think, to have some issues said in the lead and repeated two paragraphs below. If you agree, pls modify this. Thanks! --Irpen July 5, 2005 18:54 (UTC)

These are two complementary pieces of information, actually. The first one states that the spit got enlisted and explains why (the criteria). This happended in 2000. The second sentence mentions the recent threat and WHC's suggestion to put it on another list (sites in danger). This happened in 2003/2004. I've moved the first sentence to "Current state" section and merged both into a single paragraph in order to avoid this confusion with the apparent duplicate. Is this what you meant ? --Lysy (talk) 5 July 2005 19:14 (UTC)

Any explanation of this edit ? Makes no sense. --Lysy ^(talk) 19:07, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

I concur it does not make sense. Also, the Lithuanian oil terminal is called Butingė, not Butinga. Alga 21:42, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Hmm... Mentioning a Russian oil platform does make sense, while the Lithuanian oil terminal where accidents happen all the time doesn't... This is called POV, guys. --Ghirlandajo 07:40, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

No, I meant it did not make sense to claim that the proposal to enlist the Spit was dropped because it's even more polluted but I see you've corrected it now yourself. Thanks. Regarding Butingė: does the WHC consider it as a threat to the Spit or is it your opinion ? --Lysy ^(talk) 09:45, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Indeed, Butinge damages enviroiment, but not the Curonian Spit - most damage goes to Latvia. Butinge is far from Curonian Spit (it is on the Latvian border) and the hydrological currents at that place goes northwards, therefore any oil spilt goes northwards rather than southwards. There was a big outcry among the enviroimentalists of Latvia when Butinge oil terminal was being built because of that as well. And Klaipeda oil port is small, most of oil business of Lithuania goes through Butinge these days; and currents from there goes northwards as well. If there will be an article about enviroiment of whole Baltic Sea, then of course Butinge will have to be mentioned as well. Burann 19:00, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the dunes

The overall highest dune in Europe is the dune of Pilat, in Arcachon, France. Dunes of the Curonian Spit are the highest moving (or drifting) dunes in Europe. [1]

The German Imperial government spent vast sums of money before The Great War attempting to halt and slow down much of the movement, including the planting of hundreds of thousands of trees. Christchurch 07:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)