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[edit] Florida Withs!!

The story about the NCAA Basketball Championships states that Florida is the only school to with titles... adw 12:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

How about some objectivity? This is Gitmo we're talking about. Not like we can automatically trust what comes out of there, and allegations of torture and censorship of transcripts by the US government have some bearing on the story. Remember, neutrality isn't pandering to mainstream or both sides of an issue, its staying objectionable to the facts at hand. Fifty7 19:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What on earth is a de facto heterosexual or homosexual?

Just curious. Trau

Think they were referring to the status of unmarried homosexual couples. Potatoswatter 21:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
What on earth is a de facto couple? Is this something to do with Italian law? People can't be considered couples unless they get official recognition as such? Trau
Look up the term wiktionary:de facto. Potatoswatter 03:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I know what de facto means. It just doesn't seem at all applicable to relationships between human beings. Two people are either a couple or they aren't. De facto is to contrast with de jure, and neither seem applicable here. Trau
I admire your innocence, but... Potatoswatter 04:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I see Trau's point. One can't be a de facto heterosexual or de facto homosexual, although it is possible to have de facto or de jure relationships. Despite it's frequent use in common speech, de facto is a legal term and should probably not be used otherwise in an encyclopaedia. No court can RULE that an individual is a specific sexuality BY LAW, although they CAN rule that the relationship a specific couple enter into is valid IN law. Hence "de facto/de jure heterosexual/homosexual" would be an erroneous distinction, although "de facto/de jure heterosexual/homosexual relationship" would not. - 81.5.170.199 02:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
What's to say what exists legally when nothing comes before the court. I forget what the article was now, but if gay couples were getting some benefit denied to single people, presumably it would be possible for someone to get denied and have to prove their de facto relationship status. In other words, as you said there are de facto and de jure relationships. Which is what I said, and what you said and not what Trau said. A de facto homosexual would be a (possibly married) person who's convicted of deviance in some other part of the world. Potatoswatter 02:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Oops, yes I see what you mean. I was going by the original section header ("What on earth is a de facto heterosexual or homosexual?"), but on looking again I see Trau later rephrased his/her question to "What on earth is a de facto couple?", which as we both agree, could be a perfectly legitimate description of a relationship. - 81.5.170.199 03:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I have no idea about Italian law but in NZ law, couples can be in a de facto relationship if they've lived together in a relationship like marriage for 2 years or something of that sort. Most laws & policies covering people in marriages and civil unions apply to such relationships as well (inheritance, beneficiary, tax) Nil Einne 19:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Europe current events

Im interested to know where is that section.I think its gonna be quite fair if someone makes that section too.There is for each continent current events but for Europe there isnt.Please fix

Hi, in my humble opinion, I think it (this request) makes much sense.Historianism 07:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC).
yeah - this is really weird that there is no Europe link in the "Regions" bar at the top of the page. Witty lama 17:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Captain America death

I added the death of Captain America to the Current Events portal and it was delated with the claim that it lacks international merit, which I believe is unfounded since the story is posted on many news outlets including international ones, specifically CNN and their website, the AP, Variety, and numerous others, but Marvel themselves also publish worldwide. The recent unmasking of Spider-Man was included in the portal and though Cap may not be as popular, he is still known internationally who have never read comic books. This is on par with the death of Superman in 1993 which received international coverage, though was promoted muchly beforehand. In short order this story will surely be as widely circulated, yet is already prominent enough an event to merit inclusion.

Heck, I'm Canadian, and I'm posting this. It's of international interest, and I would like to see support in having it returned to the Current Events for March 7, 2007. CyclopsScott 23:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The user who deleted it conceeded on my talk page that my argument for including it is indeed valid, but also dismissed it as just some 'comic hero dies! big deal' which is a personal trivialization that's getting in the way of objectivity. Major news outlets covered this and its a noteworthy addition, and as such I'm returning the information to the main page, though will trim it down a bit as the article itself holds many details. CyclopsScott 00:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm rather frustrated as it was deleted again, with the claim that AP cannot be sourced. I had also sourced Newsarama and CNN, but on my talk page the user also claimed the death of a fictional character is not news. Contradictory the death of Superman was news, but its not the death itself that's the story per se, but the fact that Marvel published it that is the news. I still hold the Spider-Man unmasking and Superman death as precidents that should merit this being included. Neither user that deleted it has yet responded here concerning their reasoning against mine either. CyclopsScott 03:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
I support putting comic characters' deaths on here. Nescio sed Scio 18:20, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I support it as well. RobertAustin 09:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logic behind the astronaut headline?

Why is this investigation on INT? Any other American murder investigation in and of itself would most likely not pass ITN muster....why would suspicion of an astronaut change that? If there is some significance to this case I fail to see, please let me know, because as it is this is very puzzling to me. --Fsotrain09 18:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

No one was murdered in relation to the astronauts. --Holderca1 19:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] liverpool fc

Any one think the liverpool foootball club takover by gillett and hick should be noted it was a rather big story on both sides of the atlantic —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.42.91.111 (talk) 21:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

No, this story makes the front page only in USA and UK. Elsewhere, it's only sports news, and not the most important one. --Nitsansh 22:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
You are incorrect - any news about English Premiership football makes it all the way to India, lot's of fans over there :) Waffle247 15:52, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Awakening of Nevado del Huila

A mayor volcano in Colombia is awakening. This news have gained importance in Colombia since what happen in Armero, almost 2 decades ago.--ometzit<col> 20:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] helicopters?

Is the helicopter north of Baghdad a different one than the army acknowledged was shot down last week? If it's getting difficult to tell the airborne casualties apart these days, maybe they're unfortunately not front page news any more. Potatoswatter 06:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC) From the linked article: "Insurgents have shot down seven helicopters in Iraq since 20 January, with many of the 28 killed in those incidents being US soldiers." So that's about two a week. Ugh. Potatoswatter 06:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Vietnam III - this time America might win! Waffle247 15:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Three more to go. What with who makes the decisions in Washington, how could democracy ever fail? Potatoswatter 20:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] this should be updated faster

I've been seeing that Turkish court news here for a week now.This should be updated every 48 hours,not left here.If you go to Yahoo or ggoel,their news is updated evey few hours.We should strive for the same thing here.--Nadirali نادرالی

Wikipedia is not a news service, in the way that Google News and Yahoo News are. We have Wikinews for that – Qxz 07:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Eh, current events + Wikipedia's general articles tend to have a lot of advantages over Wikinews. Either way, wikipedia:be bold! Potatoswatter 10:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upcoming trial of Mordechai Vanunu

Mordechai Vanunu's trial opens the upcoming trials box since the portal was created. [1] Such a trial is not mentioned in his article or anywhere else I looked. Do you happen to know if this trial is still upcoming? Lior 04:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

If you can't find any sources that say so anywhere, it's probably best to remove it – Qxz 08:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] again

Vandal put: "Thomas came out of the closet". I don't know how to revert it and can't find who did it in the History.Therequiembellishere 20:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Whatever it was, I can't see it now, so I guess it was fixed – Qxz 23:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National People's Congress

Last year, the 2006 National People's Congress of the People's Republic of China received a place on the front page current events template. I suggest that this be done again for the 2007 National People's Congress, which opens tomorrow. Colipon+(T) 06:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A New Discovery

On March 8th 2007, scietists discovered something very important. On April 4th, they are expecting for all of the planets to line up which will end up in dramatic changes in the tides and the gravitational pull to be much higher. This is the first time it has happened in 50,000 years. This is truly an exciting event!

[edit] A Popular Site

A very popular educational website for kids is www.beaver.com. it teaches kids math,geography, science, and much more. Parents love the website. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.207.210.205 (talk) 00:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] increased activity => categories?

Lately there are occasional days with an entire screen's worth of headlines. It's getting a bit cumbersome. Maybe we should introduce an organizational template? We can have commented-in headings for different categories of news, and editors can uncomment when the first news item appears.

Economy & Development
Politics & Scandals
Tragedies & Celebrities

These headings seem too long... if every pair could be boiled down to a single word?

Anyway, it would be nice to have things organized as above... from most to least true relevance. Potatoswatter 01:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who's deleting FA Quarterfinal scores?

Please do NOT remove FA Cup scores as they have reached the sixth round proper (quarterfinals). Otherwise, I will report vandalism! NoseNuggets 5:44 PM US EDT Mar 1 2007.

[edit] great website

i love this website. I get so much info on it.keep up the good work. thank you bye —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.166.51.57 (talk) 22:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the kind words, and don't forget you can help with the good work yourself! the wub "?!" 18:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Portal

Is there a process whereby you propose a new current events portal, or do you just go ahead and create one? 08:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dev920 (talk • contribs).

No procedure as far as I know. I suggest you explain here what the new portal is intended to cover, and wait a few days to get some feedback.-gadfium 18:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
No, just go ahead and make one. Be sure that there are at least a few people prepared to regularly update it, though, as an out-of-date Current Events page isn't a lot of use to anyone – Qxz 15:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Roger. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews links

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but should we link to appropriate Wikinews stories? I have been doing this on Portal:Current events/Britain and Ireland, linking Wikinews like another source but only when there are other sources as well. I think it would help in both promoting Wikinews and driving home the fact that Wikipedia isn't a news service. the wub "?!" 18:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any harm in it if the Wikinews article is well-written and references more reliable journalistic sources (i.e. definitely don't link to one if it's purely original research). Probably better to link directly to another source as well, as you're already doing – Qxz 04:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Why does Wikinews need sources? It's a journalistic site with peer review. Potatoswatter 05:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
It doesn't. But since anyone can edit it, we can't use it as a source, because it isn't a reliable one. At most, we can use an article there as a tertiary source if it cites reliable primary or secondary sources, which is the point I was trying to make – Qxz 15:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deaths

Do we follow the ITN criteria for deaths? Or do we list in appropriate subcategories even if deaths likely meet ITN criteria for inclusion Nil Einne 19:48, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cam keperluan pelanggan (Identify customer needs)

Cam keperluan Pelanggan dengan menggunakan dokumen perancangan, permintaan perlanggan, manual teknikal, diagram rangkaian (network line diagram) dan lain-lain maklumat. Penggunaan komputer dan alat komunikasi supaya keperluan pelanggan dicam, disahkan dan disimpan menurut prosedur yang tersedia.


Solicit work order from source Perolehi arahan kerja dari sumber

Arahan kerja adalah bersumberkan dari pelanggan yang melanggan sesuatu perkhidmatan(servis) yang telah ditetapkan oleh syarikat. Dalam menghadapi kepelbagaian pelanggan dari segala jenis masalah yang bakal dihadapi dalam menyediakan perkhidmatan hendaklah dirangka dan ditetapkan satu bentuk arahan kerja yang tetap. 3 langkah utama mesti dibuat ialah merekod, mengecam, dan mengesahkan

Merekod. 1. Memperolehi cara untuk menghubungi kembali pelanggan berkenaan supaya sebarang masalah berbangkit boleh terus diselesaikan, seperti nama pelanggan, nombor telefon yang boleh dihubungi dan juga alamat rumah pelanggan.

Mengecam 2. Mengenakan bayaran deposit untuk memastikan kesungguhan pelanggan dalam memerlukan perkhidmatan yang akan ditawarkan. Mengecam jenis jenis perkhidmatan yang diperlukan pelanggan sambil menerangkan cas-cas yang akan dikenakan.

Mengesahkan 3. Menerangkan syarat-syarat perkhidmatan, kelebihan dan kekurangan perkhidmatan yang ditawarkan supaya pelanggan akan membuat pertimbangan yang wajar dalam untuk mengesahkan benar benar berminat untuk menggunakan perkhidmatan dalam tempoh bertenang 14 hari.

Menerima Arahan Kerja.

Apabila permohonan Pelanggan telah diterima. Maka(besambung) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dajjal02 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

The English snippets here don't seem to have anything to do with current events. Work orders? Network graphs? Are you in the right place? Potatoswatter 09:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Looks like Bahasa to me. --Howard the Duck 06:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You've identified the customer... 's nationality... now what's he need... Potatoswatter 07:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I couldn't care less but using another language in the English Wikipedia is both annoying and stupid. --Howard the Duck 10:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
More specifically Malay. I didn't read the whole thing and my Malay is a bit rusty anyway but it looks like the first part is telling you how to "Identify customer needs" and the second part why and how to "solicit work orders from source". It then looks like it's going to go on to tell you what to do once you have a properly detailed, recorded & confirmed work order but it ends and says (continued). There doesn't seem to be a question and I'm not going to try and solicit a work order from Dajjal. I guess it's no more strange then some of the other odd stuff we get and at least it's on a talk page not vandalising a article Nil Einne 12:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, if he's been on for four months and that's his only edit, ain't that curious? Perhaps we should solicit a work order! Like some kind of adventure video game. Potatoswatter 06:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Linking to Wikinews

Is there any way that Wikipedia could link more to Wikinews on this page (perhaps a small icon like a barnstar next to a story)? Wikinews usually covers the majority of the events presented on this page. Thunderhead (talk) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thunderhead1 (talk • contribs) 15:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Provincial Election result on Main Page

The election result for Quebec makes it to the Current Events on the Main Page, but last Saturday's state election in New South Wales did not. Clearly there is a regional bias at work here. 58.169.33.31 00:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Apologies, was not logged in when posting that. Darcyj 00:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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