Talk:Culver's
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A good portion of this article comes across as more of an advertisement than an informative piece of writing. Referring to the quality of the food and stating that it is of better "fare" than most others was not necessary.
- I removed the last two sentences, if that helps. Iowahwyman 05:38, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Just so everyone knows, I am planning on giving this page a facelift, making it much more informative and detailed. Just fyi. cliedl 08:58 PDT, 13 Jul 2005
- That's fine...just don't make the article sound too much like an advertisement. Also, be aware that drastic changes may be reverted by other users. Other than that, go ahead. --MatthewUND(talk) 09:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it's just making it look better and flow better, as well as adding in some more..esoteric information. I'm modeling it after a lot of the other fast food pages, especially In-n-Out. cliedl 17 Jul 2005, 13:28 PDT
Osirisx11: yes, I have been to at least 30 Culver's, mostly in Wisconsin and Minnesota, but also in Indiana, Illinois, and Michigan. At those restaurants, I have never once observed a bell similar to the kind I have seen at Arby's. I have most certainly not seen one in southern Wisconsin, where Culver's originated, therefore I do not think it constitutes "common practice". Furthermore, as I made mention of previously, I am completely rewriting and expanding this article (a la In-n-Out), so perhaps you could assist me with that. What Culver's have you been to with a bell?? Cliedl 17:51, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Tomah, wisconsin and several others. I'll take a picture next time i'm in there. :)
- Tomah?? I was just there two week ago and I didn't see one...maybe I missed it.. Cliedl 18:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Its there. My mother and sister vouch for it too. I'll take a picture next time I'm in there. Osirisx11 00:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Okay I went to the Culver's in Tomah today and I was wrong. Maybe it was in Reedsburg, Wisconsin. Can anyone near there report? I now realize it was probably an isolated incedent and probably shouldn't be put in the article, but there was a culver's that had a bell, i'm sure of it. Osirisx11 08:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Minimum wage
Culver's may pay more than other chains but I believe they all pay more than minimum wage. Could someone clarify this? --Gbleem 03:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
I work there, and I get paid the state mininum wage for minors (5.90 in Wisconsin). Most of the people there are making about mininum wage, and certainly not significantly higher.
I work at 2 Culver's in MN and I get paid 7 and 7.25 so that is above Minimum wage here.
Same here, they started us at either $6.50 or $7.00 when minimum wage was $5.15, which is 26-36% higher than minimum wage. Maybe not significantly greater than, but certainly not at minimum wage.
[edit] Reads like an advertisement
I tagged this article with {{ad}}. Sections "Butterburgers and other specialties" and "Miscellaneous" read like advertisements.--Húsönd 19:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Nothing in this article is anywhere near as self-aggrandizing or advertisment-esque as In-n-Out's page. That's usually my standard for any edits on this one.
[edit] False statement
As a employee that used to work at a Culver's, I would like to point out that "(nothing that goes on the grill is ever frozen)" is a false statement. Grilled chicken, blacken chicken, steak, and corned beef for rubens are all shipped to the resturant frozen and have to be defrosted before they can be cooked. The always fresh never frozen slogan is meant to apply only to the ground beef used for butterburgers. Please fix this when the article is revised.
[edit] Not fast casual
Someone needs to explain to me how Culvers is fast casual or else I'm deleting the category again. Here, I'll quote our own wikipedia article on fast casual dining: "promises a somewhat higher quality of food and atmosphere. It is a growing concept to fill the space between fast-food and casual dining, and often offers at least limited table service. The typical cost per guest is in the $6-$10 range."
First of all, Culvers is not $6-10. Second, as is already noted in this talk page, Culvers only uses marginally higher quality than typical fast food places. It is in no way as high quality or fresh as any of the fast casual restaurants I've been to on that list. It serves almost all the same food as typical fast food restaurants: fries, burgers, chicken sandwiches, basic salads. At its best it is like higher quality fast food places like Arby's. In-N-Out Burger has even higher quality burgers and produce, but still gets the fast food category because it operates like a fast food restaurant. Maxterpiece 14:07, 17 October 2006 EDT
[edit] Definitely fast casual
That's not even my personal opinion, that's industry definition[1]. The quality of food is significantly higher than that of a food restaurant, it offers "at least limited table service", and "the typical cost per guest is in the $6-$10 range." I have never paid more than $10 for a meal at Culver's and you would be hard-pressed to do so. Whether or not In-N-Out's burgers and produce are "even higher quality" is a subjective and debatable point on which I would disagree with you. However, as far as classification goes, as you yourself noted, In-N-Out "operates like a fast food restaurant" thus leading it be labeled as fast food. Lmeister 18:56, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] are you sure?
I disagree that the quality, other than the burgers, is any higher than other fast food restaurants. It also serves the same fare in the same style as 95% of normal fast food restaurants, but perhaps because Culver's has chosen to define itself as fast casual because it doesn't have the same stigmas as fast food, you find that other websites refer to it as fast casual. Fast casual restaurants are seen as cleaner, healthier, fresher which is a nice thing to be attached to if you are a growing chain. Culver's may be a bit cleaner and a bit fresher, but it is not any healthier, is significantly less fresh than any other fast casual restaurant. I don't believe Culver's is fast casual, but I concede that wikipedia is no place to argue about what a company declares itself to be. Perhaps a note in the article could say how it differs from all other fast casual restaurants?
- Maxterpiece- nothing that you have said here is verifiable fact. If anything, it goes against the common understanding of Culver's standing among similar eateries. Do you have any factual basis for saying that Culver's is "not any healthier, is significantly less fresh than any other fast casual restaurant" or even that "In-N-Out Burger has even higher quality burgers and produce"? This all sounds incredibly subjective, and unless you have some sort of objective evidence to refute Culver's proper classification as fast casual, there is no reason why it should be altered. Lmeister 16:54, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
