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MySpace figures

Don't have an account so I wouldn't know. Should the reference not link to where you got your info? The present 'external article' link is irrelevant at the moment - even looks slightly like a sneaky spammy external link, if you're new to the page! Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 16:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. Just created an account, logged out, logged back in. Still can't find any figures quoted for membership. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 17:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I can see it now (but only after full activation by email, it seems). Now...

How would we verify the figures in the article? We can't provide a hyperlink ref, as it won't show up to non-logged in members or non-members. Suggestions? If 154,000,000 stays as the figure, surely we need to point to the new source, or revert to the previous, unless there's some other way of proving the update through MySpace. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 20:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Dell

These ("As of Feb 2007 ...") are pretty well-known facts but I found several cites to back them up per your request. Thanks for not just deleting the para outright. 15.235.153.104 15:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio

Please be more careful when making revisions. The text you reverted on The Sims Life Stories was a copyright violation which was explained in my edit summary. Its a word for word copy of the text from the website, this is not appropriate for article content on wikipedia. Please see WP:COPYRIGHT for more information.--Crossmr 15:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I'm a little trigger-happy sometimes with the reverting. Thanks for letting me know of my mistake! MetsFan76 15:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your response re: RateItAll article

(I hope this works; I'm still trying to figure this out; I'm copying & pasting the response to you that I put on my page) Response: Thank you for responding; I don't know how to respond to you directly (again, I'm a stumbling newbie, and figuring out the whole system is still very cryptic to me), so I'll do so here. Genghis and I both have been using RateItAll for some time now, so I understand it may be difficult for us to write in a neutral manner (I've avoided doing so only because I've only added that little box-thingy on the side. Hard to make that biased, though I'm sure it could be done). Even so, I think with a good run of editing it could work. As far as sourcing goes, I do agree with the complaint about the lack of hardcore sources; I hardly trust anything on the internet to be a legitimate "source" of any information that has a ".com" on the end of it, but I found that the sources listed on articles on similar webpages to list similar sources, or even sources that are downright unacceptable in my eyes (with regards to legitimacy). As someone who clearly has Wikipedia's best interests in mind, I would sincerely like to ask for your help on how to make this article up to par (which, as an admittedly hard-headed person who hates asking for help as I am, takes a lot for me to ask).Kamylienne 04:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply to your reliable sources comment in RateItAll page

I read your discussion and here is the provenance concerning the cite you removed.

Lee Odden is President and Founder of TopRank Online Marketing, specializing in organic SEO, blog marketing and online public relations. He's been cited as a search marketing expert by publications including U.S. News & World Report and The Economist and has implemented successful search marketing programs with top BtoB companies of all sizes. Odden shares his marketing expertise at Online Marketing Blog offering daily news, interviews and best practices.

I proffer that this contradicts your statement that the guy is not a subject matter expert.GenghisTheHun 22:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)GenghisTheHun

I forgot to add a Google search

By the way here is a Google search on John Battelle, another removed source re; The RateItAll page discussion. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=john+battelle&btnG=Search+News

GenghisTheHun 22:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)GenghistheHun

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My Fault, you're right

So the Conflict of Interest clause applies to deletion discussions as well. I wasn't aware of that - I'll bow out now, and sorry for breaking the rules. I do hope that you won't delete the info I posted, and believe it or not, we've made every effort to keep the hordes of RIA'ers trampling in here (after my initial blog post).

But Crossmr, we are a big, legit, high traffic, well-known web site that has been first to market with a number of important innovations. Hopefully the evidence is starting to demonstrate this.--Lawrencecoburn 03:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Crossmr, thanks for removing that deletion request. Any guidance you can give going forward to help folks make the RIA article consistent with Wikipedia's quality standards would be greatly appreciated.

Have a good one,

Lawrence--Lawrencecoburn 04:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Could do with an opinion

Hi. Maybe not your field, but you might see my point.

At George Courtney (former international football/soccer referee), I have recently reverted what I considered to be insensitive and even irrelevant information added, in that his son Matthew has been killed in a tragic accident within the last three days, and two editors created a tabloid-style reference to this today.

I am not sure about Wiki guidelines on this, you can imagine that if the wrong people saw this they would be upset - I know I would.

Your thoughts would be invaluable. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 00:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 10:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:AfD Closure

Yep. It was careless of me to remove the NPOV and unreferenced tags. Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers. Pea ceNT 15:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tower Defense

Sorry mate but i have absolutely no idea what you are referring to. The only comments i made regarding tower defense were logged my mistake and promptly removed. Anyway, if there was an appropriate forum to make my comments, they would still stand, even if your 'language skills' differ from mine. That ok, i think you get what im trying to say, if i want to find out info about something on wikipeida, and its not there, then whats the point of this whole thing anyway? roll on homie! Chillicane 03:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Indeed but anyway, it was a mistake, but im not sure why you brought it up since i removed it. Never mind ill try and be more carefull in the future.

YW

You're welcome. I know, it's frustrating when you post on one of those boards and no one notices or cares. (Happened to me a bunch recently.) Getting involved in personal attack intervention seems to be something most people avoid. Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 03:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Websites against PayPal

Ehy man, why did you removed my edits? after all, i believe that a little of criticism against paypal (btw nothing of personal) isn't so bad, they all are real happened things, so there are no reason about removing them (IMHO). cya --DrugoNOT 17:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

ahh.... i get it.... very bad.... well, on it.wiki we give to users good and bad sides of companies (something like both the truths, if there are more than one....)... on en.wiki exists so much hypocrisy and ~~a little of~~ censorship. Btw, okay...never mind.. bye bye!... --DrugoNOT 19:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

photo of the La Fonera

In your recent edit[1] of FON you said that the package you received in Canada was identical to the one on the image.

Picture of a FON2100 router, its original packaging and accessories.

Is the power connector really identical? I wrote that it is "of a common European type" on the file's details page, and while not knowing for sure it seems like the power connector couldn't be identical in Canada, at least if i understand the article on Domestic AC power plugs and sockets correctly. apecat 04:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Your AIV report (I cannot find any vandalism by this user)

Thank you for making a report in respect of 71.139.22.222 (talk · contribs · block log) on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Removing and reporting vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them again to the AIV noticeboard. Thanks. Sandstein 07:01, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Sandstein, it's a little more complicated than that: this person appears to be part of a group of people harassing Crossmr (possibly two individuals, one in California and one at Keesler AFB in Mississippi). It's not a one-off case of vandalism.

Crossmr, it looks like 24. and 131. are the same person, living/working in the Biloxi area, and 71. is in the San Francisco Bay Area. I just left a message for 71. Let me or AN/I know if he bothers you again. Antandrus (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

This is your talk page, Crossmr, but it is not your page. Removing my comments is vandlism. 131.22.200.64 15:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's guidelines & policies permits that. Sorry. Happy Editing by Snowolf^(talk)_CON^COI on 15:09, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Really? Than how come Crossmr threatens anyone who removes his comments on their talk page with a BAN? Hmmm? Is he "special"? 131.22.200.64 15:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

As he is not an admin, he cannot ban anyone. However, if qualified admins agree with him that contributors are harassing him, or in any way vandalising his user or talk pages, then a ban might follow - from an admin, not from Crossmr. Hope that explains things for you. Thanks. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 16:10, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Crossmr, it looks like it's been done [2]. 131/24, if you are reading this, harassment won't get you anywhere--if you think you have a legitimate complaint you have to go through the regular dispute resolution process. I've been a Wikipedian for three years and I've yet to see an exception to the rule that harassers get shown the door. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, and I'm sorry Crossmr had to put up with this for as long as they did. -- Satori Son 16:46, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Once again it's already been done (thanks, Trialsanderrors) -- I'm at work and only looking at my watchlist now and again. Let me know if you need any other help. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 18:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

User talk page policies

If you decide to start a new discussion on Village Pump to try to start the ball rolling to get a consensus on a user talk page policy, let me know. In my opinion, baby steps should start with agreeing on a policy to make the removal of vandalism warnings from your own talk page a form of vandalism with the appropriate warning templates and escalation procedures. If we can limit the scope of the discussion and not let it get out of hand, we might have a chance at making progress on policy. Maybe we could even concede that the policy (to start) would only apply to anonymous users. Jimbo Wales even said that anonymous users do not have the same rights as registered users[3]. -- Mufka ^(user) ^(talk) ^(contribs) 02:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Grilled Cheese

Why did you remove the part I added about Mrs. Crumplebottom on the Sims 2: Nightlife article? It was verifiable (use the cheat to add her to your family), and I've done it multiple times and gotten the same result. It was not a joke or vandalism. If you could explain your reasoning, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.--Grendlefuzz 10:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

The Sims 2

Hi, I have some questions about the article, and you seem to be quite the expert:

Is there a specific reason why aspiration is a header a level higher than the others, under "Sims"? If so, I don't think the subsequent subsections make clear use of that fact, that they are part of the Aspiration section. I think it is just a typo, because I think it falls on the same level as Motives and Personatlity.
Would you object to a table-based structure for the Expansions etc. sections? I think a concise table displaying dates, important features, and other essential info is more useful than bullet points, in this situation.
The article is long enough to warrant a statement on the edit page, so are there any sections you think should be deleted? I vouch that the Bella Goth Story and Goth Family sections be merged into a shorter summary of the canon present in TS2.
The Sexual Controversy Section also seems a little out of place. I can see why it would go under Customization, but again it doesn't make it blatantly clear.

That's all for now. I just got addicted to playing again, so I'm going to hover around this article for a while. Thanks. z ε n .ıl 20:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Awesome. I'll look it over. I think the Life Stories article needs expansion, if you've gotten a copy of it to play. Screenshots for all articles could help too. I haven't been able to get the OFB or Pets games yet. z ε n .ıl 03:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok fine, I can't add as much as I delete from the said article because I do not own it. I do think the basic house info must be mentioned. Regarding other content; if that 'level of detail' is inappropriate for Pedial, it's fine to put it on Books? z ε n .ıl 05:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I would like that. I'd be an active participator, but first I'd like to put the finishing touches on the Pedia articles first, and then get through other To-Do lists I have. z ε n .ıl 05:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I looked at the Starcraft book to get some ideas about how to structure TS2 book, and apparently, according to this, they're actively purging all game guides anyways. Reason being - exactly what we resolved to do - WB modules were essentially dumps of content rejected from Pedia. ALTON .ıl 05:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, umm, I'm not sure where else to say this, but please stop changing my thing about Lillith Pleasant being emo. She is NOT A GOTH. I know my subcultures. Thank you.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by *camisado* (talk • contribs) 15:46, March 10, 2007.And again about that, it's something unwritten, unsaid, whatever. Since we really have no proof either way, prehaps we can just say that she has become a social reject or something of the sort? Thanks.

Hi Crossmr, I've created a {{Prod-nn}} template, which could be of interest... Addhoc 13:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Your COI posting about RateItAll

Hello Crossmr. I just looked over the RateItAll article and made some notes at WP:COI/N. Feel free to add your specific concerns about items that may be against policy that have been added to the article. Or add your concerns at Talk:RateItAll and update the COI entry to reference your comments. EdJohnston 20:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems GenghisTheHun is asking the right questions. If I were more awake right now I'd try to think of ways of bridging the difference between your viewpoint and his. His degree of benefit from the RateItAll site appears slight; there would be many, many COIs in Wikipedia if that type of connection were considered enough to create a COI. What concerns me more is that he is creating the article from the viewpoint of an enthusiast. Somehow we should try to get more neutrality into the article and get more third-party viewpoints (if any can be found) on the effectiveness of RateItAll's concepts. EdJohnston 05:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Half-Life 2 controversies and criticisms

Just for the record, I just completed the merge of the above article into Half-Life 2. Best regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 10:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandals removing vandalism warnings

A discussion is underway: [4]. -- Mufka ^(user) ^(talk) ^(contribs) 16:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Sorry I forgot the citation! Not sure what I was thinking. Not sure if what I added is all too nessecary but I figured it could help players undrestand frustrations that they are dealing with. Thanks for the edit! :) Artimaeis 00:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Blanking on AN/I

Responses on my talk page; goodness, you took a year off of my life :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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