Talk:Crossfire (TV series)
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Reflections on the exit polls keep changing but apparently 80 % of the vote consisted on the "right" religious vote and their moral values. Do the religious right also believe being at War to be moral too?Canada 21—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.70.188.201 (talk • contribs) 5 November 2004.
- With the increasing popularity of alternatives like the Fox News Channel, Crossfire saw decreasing viewership.
That's like saying a skyscraper is an alternative to a room. Can someone come up with a more decent comparison? What other programs are out there that are like Crossfire?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.160.195.187 (talk • contribs) 10 January 2005.
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[edit] Fired?
Tucker Carlson was fired from Crossfire? I thought he/they had been planning for him to leave for a while---even before Stewart's appearance in October. Can somebody verify this? FatherGuidoSarducci 01:15, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
- CNN decided to specifically not renew his contract. He was defintely fired. I don't know off hand whether it was because of Jon Stewart, but Carlson only looked to MSNBC after CNN let him go, not before.[[1]]Thorburn 20:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Which begs the question -- why does it not specifically say that? The way it's written now makes it sound like he left voluntarily -- that was definitely not the tone in CNN's news releases. Rhombus 03:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
i believe this article does need serious clearing up in terms of NPOV, both on the comparison of the hosts and on the general tone. Examples:
- "The show now seldom discussed issues, rather it was straight politics and political strategy with a rota of party consultants and strategists reading their party's talking points of the day"
- "Sununu was witty and tremendously informed on issues and a worthy opponent for Kinsley."
- "But its descent into a forum for nothing other than partisan politics, and the establishment of more entertaining rivals, saw Crossfire lose ground and its death was little mourned."
so I am going to put a NPOV-template on the site.
Sirana 12:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
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- There was a comment 24 February 2006 by User:Dean B, which the author then removed. I thought I'd point it out because it went into detail as to what the author had done to try to make the article more neutral. It's still there in the page history, of course. --Lawikitejana 03:27, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. This seems to be a transcript of an analysts article, and does not even attempt to be neutral. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spearman (talk • contribs) 2 July 2006.
- I agree as well. In fact, I was surprised to see that apparently no one had added the template already. Now, of course, I realize that Sirana had done so, but was inexplicably and unjustifiably countered by User:68.17.184.156. The template is now restored. I'd try to do the NPOV work, but frankly, I don't feel I know the show well enough. --Lawikitejana 03:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, this is the worst NPOV I've ever seen. The article should exist, but I wonder if we should blank it and start over again because the edits would take forever. StayinAnon 19:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Links
I have just added a couple of extra links in the final article with Jon Stewart. I think that it would benificial to the general Wikipedia public if someone could fill in the rest of the new articles entitled "Public Discourse" and "Partisan Hackery" (The latter may have an article already, it hasn't linked to anything, so it may just be the sentence structure.)I think that defining these important topics will help the general public in understanding some of this informal political terminology. --Dark Observer
[edit] Some analysis is required
Now that this show has been dead for over a year, I think that additional context is required to explain the show's demise. I have chosen to attempt to characterize why the show lost its relevance. Jon Stewart did not single-handedly kill this show: it started to stink sometime soon after 9/11. I am rather open-minded about where the analysis show go, but this is probably a case where we can work together to come up with WHY the show stank. I do not want to get caught in the middle of some silly liberal/conservative NPOV mudfest. Let's try to come up with a fair explaination and put it into the lead section so that the reader does not have to necessarily read the whole article before that have a fair idea about why the show is gone. -- PinkCake 21:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
