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1 1998 World Cup
2 NDH scores
3 worst defeat
4 New Look 2006
5 Vatreni
6 Famous and historical games
7 Shirt Pictures

[edit] 1998 World Cup

I am suggesting that there should be a detailed analysis of the success of France 98, as it is their greatest achievement. --Differentgravy 18:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NDH scores

I'm concerned as to whether it's correct to include statistics from the Independent State of Croatia in the article. I don't think that they should be included because that state doesn't generally have continuity with modern Croatia (and is generally a disgrace so we Croatians prefer to disassociate ourselves from it), but given that I read that the Croatian Football Federation actually joined FIFA in 1941, I have erred on the side of caution and left that stuff in.

The Federation web site it vague in this regard. They say that the initial joining was in 1941, but also every time say that they rejoined in 1992. They list some of the WWII statistics, and mention Concordia and Građanski, but then, they also say that these clubs won Yugoslav championships, too. They did not note the national team's successes before 1990, which may be directly relevant to the content of this page.

I wonder, under which country name did they join, just "Croatia" or "IS of Croatia"? Was that FIFA a world-wide recognized entity, to the extent that it was before the WWII?

Exactly, they RE-Joined in 1992. So the initial entry was in 1941. And Croatia is obviously the successor nation, like Serbia is the successor nation of serbia-montenegro and yugoslavia

--Shallot 09:55, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] worst defeat

After moving the NDH stuff to the other section, I had to fill in the other stats in the infobox. Is 4:1 a defeat worse than 3:0? Because Croatia lost by 3:0 also to Portugal and France each, too. --Joy [shallot] 01:05, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

In these cases for other national teams, I list all three defeats in chornological order; see Serbia_and_Montenegro_national_football_team for example --Dryazan 01:49, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Look 2006

Could somebody change shirt colors. See: de:Kroatische Fußballnationalmannschaft. See also: Novi dres Hrvatske reprezentacije. Can't handle that. thx. --Neoneo13 22:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vatreni

Wouldn't a better (though perhaps more literal) translation of Vatreni be "The Fiery Ones"? --AHrvojic 17:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. That sounds a bit long :) The word "fiery" isn't anything other than an adjective so there's no confusion that it could refer to anything other than the team? --Joy [shallot] 21:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

One should rather avoid the word "one" my English teacher said. Sounds too impersonal. Mainly used by royals or Margaret Thatcher, e.g... Think thats not what we want. ;) --Neoneo13 22:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, "Fiery" by itself sounds quite strange in English as a nickname ("fiery what?"), but then I can't think of a good single English word to express the idea of "fiery ones" either :) The word "one" is impersonal and fairly out of place when talking about sports, though it seems to be unavoidable in this case to me (at least we don't need the "the" ;). Google turns up a few links, but not much: [1]. --AHrvojic 01:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

What about a somewhat more personal touch: "The Fiery Players", squad, team, or similar? Think, that would be better than "ones". Or even this alliteration: "The Fiery Footballers" or "The Fiery Footballplayers"? ;). Don't know how this sounds to an english native speaker... --Neoneo13 23:11, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

How about Fiery Ones?

[edit] Famous and historical games

Should they include:

vs Denmark in Split - qualif. for WC'98 ("splitska bura")

vs Ukraine in Zagreb - qualif. for WC'98

vs Rep. Ireland in Zagreb - qualif. for Euro 2000 (Šuker's goal in last minute very memorable)

vs Yuga in Zagreb - qualif. for Euro 2000 (our neighbours first time in Zagreb)

vs Sweden in Stockholm - qualif. for WC'06 (Srna's free kick)

vs Bulgaria in Sofia - qualif. for WC'06

vs Brazil in Berlin - WC'06

any other???

What I'd like to know is why is Croatia-Norway 2-1 (07 February 2007 - friendly match) listed as one of famous matches??? That match had pretty much no significance at all and Norway does not belong to top class of football nations. Lets face it, few weeks after this game, Norway lost to Bosnia and Herzegovina in Euro quals. IMO, this game should not be listed with some of the greatest matches in history of croatian football. If someone really thinks that match against Norway should be listed, then shouldn't that also be the case with 3-0 home win against Maradona's Argentina or 1-0 win against Romania (WC '98.). In both cases oponents were stronger then Norway, both matches were more important (tho Argentina match was also friendly, that was time when Croatia was just starting to make it's name in world of football, soon after independence), and both oponents were way stronger then Norway in february of 2007. Z0r04st3r 19:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)