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Contents 1 Muhajir (Caucasus) 2 Unspecified source for Image:MuğlaSaatKulesi.jpg 3 Translation 4 Turkish Provinces 5 Templates and all 6 User:Miskin 7 Occupation of Izmir 8 Image:ŞerifGören.jpg 9 Your edits 10 Karapinar again 11 Infobox templates 12 Templates 12.1 User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template 12.2 User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template 13 Request of assistance for vandal user behaviour by Khoikhoi 14 Templates 15 Image copyright problem 16 Hamshenis 17 Hamshenis 18 Template-project 19 Cooperation board launched

[edit] Muhajir (Caucasus)

Can you please look at the Muhajir (Caucasus) page which is similar to Muhajir (Turkey) page. Siddiqui 17:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:MuğlaSaatKulesi.jpg

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[edit] Translation

I see that you're a skillful speaker of English and French, eh? There's a small task to be done, and it would be appreciated if you did it: In the article Hickory Dickory Dock, there's a section on a similar-sounding French rhyme. It has a machine translation underneath, which is mostly comprehensive, but still has a line that says "From Meuse groove, houp! blisters." Would you please translate this into plain English? --Gray Porpoise^{Phocoenidae, not Delphinidae} 20:28, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkish Provinces

The Turkish provinces such as Rize Province and Artvin Province do not have Turkish spelling but has other regional languages. Can you check all Turkish provinces. Thanks. Siddiqui 13:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates and all

Valla geldigimden beri bakiyordum, diger her ulkenin bir topics in xi var, biz yetim gibi kalmisiz ortada, see also'lara ekleme çikarma yapiyoruz :))).. Onune gelen birsey ekliyordu, boylece fazla gerilim olmaz hem de butun makaleleri birbirine baglamis oluruz, eskiden atlaya atlaya geçiliyordu. Bu arada Human rights in Turkeyi bastan asagi tekrar yazdim.. Paso 100 yuz negatiflikti, valla anlamiyorum insanlari.. Sayfa da soyle yaratilmis zaten [1] ! Her neyse, genel insan haklarindan bahsettigi için cumhuriyet tarihinde verilen haklari ve de bazi iddialarin hukuki bazini anlattim.. Yani human rights in arabia olarak da isimlendirilebilirmis eski hali.. :)) Mesela, adamlar devamli diyor ki European Charter for Regional or Minority Languagesni uygulamadigi için TR barbarmis falan filan, halbuki bu antlasmanin uygulamasi Fransada anayasa mahkemesince durduruldu ve fransa uygulamiyor.. Olay bu zaten, her olayda TR kotu.. Hiç baska ulkelerle karsilastirip olayin derinligine inme yok.. Zaten o yuzden ilk isim Turkish Constitutioni bastan asagi yazmakti.. Simdi foreign relationsa geçiyorum, Turk-Azeriyi dedigin gibi degistirdim.. Ilker Basbug için bilemiyorum, ama iki sene sonra GK baskani olacagini dusunursek kalabilir diye dusunuyorum, zaten bunu dusunerek yazdim, diger komutanlara dokunmadim.. Immigration to Turkey iyi olmus, boyle bir makaleye gerçekten ihtiyaç vardi, onemli guncel bir olay.. Her neyse hadi kolay gelsin! :) Baristarim 06:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

aha.. :)) Turkçe vikiye bir daha bak.. :)) Zaten biyografiyi direkt [2]den almistim.. Je sais pas.. Ne dusunuyorsun? En azindan kalabilir diye dusunuyorum, ilerde onemli olabilir :).. Baristarim 07:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[3].. Sen KKKnin maddesini mi diyordun? Baristarim 07:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Miskin

Cool Cat, without taking sides, could you take a look at this user's history, such as on Cretan Turks page but also elsewhere. Am I the only one who thinks that, removing information sourced or transferred from another article, and then putting it back, and then removing it again, and then writing long diatribes mentioning my user name again and again are calculated and subversive acts? He is in dispute with a lot of people (even with the Serbians - for a Greek, that's an accomplishment). I had made it clear some time ago that I didn't consider him a serious user.

Now I am starting to think that there is an agenda for, perhaps, creating pet little Greek Muslims to brainwash the next generation of Greeks:) (check the vote on the title Greek Muslims on that article's talk page, it was the caucus of the century [4]). The only problem is that they are nowhere to be seen, and very few among those population groups included in the category consider themselves as Greeks. That should raise question marks for a serious mind. I am beginning to think that the organized bullying of Cretan Turks page forms part of a general trend. Before his arrival, the page was being developped constructively with involvement from another Greek user. Regards. Cretanforever 21:59, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for getting back on you about this in a delayed manner.

Is the issue still a problem? What exactly is the problem with the artice/user (I havent looked)? Have you tried WP:RFC?

--Cat out 12:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't mind for the moment. If I start to mind, I will try WP:RFC as you suggest. It's part of a general habit of making alphabet soups out of ethnicities. People are no longer being referred to along religious denominations. That was 19th century talk (i.e. Bosnian Muslims). And in the case of Turkish Cretans, Greeks are very badly placed to put forth denominations. The more so when their own language defines Turkish Cretans as Turkish Cretans. If they bully the page, I will add hurtful stuff. One fine day, they will grow up! :) Cretanforever 12:56, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

A patient pacifist approach is the better side of valor. If you end up adding info in a biased manner, I can't help you. Do not make edits driven by revenge. Furthermore in such a case, an RFC would not go well... --Cat out 13:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Occupation of Izmir

Hi Cretan, i know you've contributed to the article before, its been tagged and put up for deletion. Please give your view here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Occupation of İzmir Thanks, --A.Garnet 18:50, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Ayip etim Cretan, bayramin kutlu olsun. I know its not the right way, but as it is, the article will be deleted for no other reason than pov pushing. What next, TRNC (I would not be surprised)? Anyway, i hope you have a happy bayram Cretan. Thanks, --A.Garnet 20:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, not much i know about marinas in TRNC Cretan, other than the Girne harbour is very nice :) Great article though. --A.Garnet 19:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:ŞerifGören.jpg

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[edit] Your edits

It've been cleaning up behind some your edits. It's not that they're false most of the time, it's just that they're extremely one-sided and badly-written. I remember as back as the Battle of Manzikert dispute that you were having trouble expressing yourself in an "encyclopedic" way, and ironically you were surprised when your edits were reverted. For example look at the red text of this edit [5]:

"On the other hand, On the other hand, one can argue that, if an Emperor is lost to captivity and had to be bailed out, and Turkish horsemen had started roaming all over the Anatolian heartland in a few years, if that is not a disaster, what is?"

Is that what you call "professional level of english", because I tend to mistake such edits for vandalism, or for a bad joke. Was it my fault to remove this? Because after I did you were whinning in Talk for being unjust to you. This serves only as an example, you have definitely improved since then, but I still think that you're unable to see the lack of neutrality in your edits. Miskin 11:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Karapinar again

Hey, have you seen this? Khoikhoi 00:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox templates

Dear Cretanforever, Şablonlara çok emek vermişsin.Amacım yaptıklarını bozmak değildi. Şablonlarda bazı iyileştirmeler yapılabilir gibi görülüyor.

Tüm şablonlarda üst satırda isim ile birlikte bayrak yer alsa iyi olur.

1-İl şablonu(Infobox provinces of TR);

İl haritası burada yeralmalı

Valilik web siteside burada yeralmalı

altta ilin ilçelerini gösteren şablon ve Türkiyenin illerini gösteren bir şablon olmalı.

2-Şehir şablonu(Büyük şehir ve kasaba ayrımı nasıl yapılabilir?ayrı bir şablon olabilirmi?)

Türkiye üzerinde Şehir lokasyonunu (nokta halinde) gösteren bir harita burada yeralmalı

website:sadece belediye(birden fazla belediye olma durumuna dikkat)websitesi olmalı

altta büyükşehir ve bağlı belediyeleri gösteren bir şablon ve Türkiyenin illerini gösteren bir şablon olmalı.

3-Prefecture mi yoksa district mi ilçeyi/kaymakamlığı daha iyi tanımlıyor?

ayrı bir infobox olmasında yarar var.

İl haritası üzerinde ilçe arazisini gösteren bir harita yeralmalı.

sadece kaymakamlık websitesi olmalı

altta ilçenin köylerini ve ilin ilçelerini gösteren şablon olmalı.

4-Köy ve beldeler için bir infobox olursa nasıl olur.

hangi bilgiler yer almalı.

• Böyle bir projeyi beraberce götürebilirmiyiz?

Önerilerini bekliyorum. Saygı ve selam. Mustafa Akalp^TC 10:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Please see User:Mustafa Akalp/template. You are free to modify totally. regards Mustafa Akalp^TC 13:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template

User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template Sınıflandırdım. Lütfen bak-Düzelt/ekle/çıkar. Selam Mustafa Akalp^TC 17:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template

User_talk:Mustafa_Akalp/template Lütfen bir bak. Esas olan "City"(Infobox town TR). diğerlerini bu formata göre düzenleyebiliriz. Lütfen bak-Düzelt/ekle/çıkar. Görüşlerini bekliyorum. Bu şablonlardan sonra yapılacak çok iş var. "Mayors of Turkey","Governors of Turkey", Kasabalar, köyler vb. Selam Mustafa Akalp^TC 17:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request of assistance for vandal user behaviour by Khoikhoi

Could the administation and users take an independent look for the following reversal of useful and pertinent contributions at the Mustafa Kemal Ataturk site please? It is very difficult for me not to interpret the revision by Khoikhoi as disrespectful vandalism and disruptive behaviour. More I studied his log history at various article related to the Turkish subjects and prior bans for the same disruptive behaviour, more concerned I became. Could someone help revert the edits he damaged and request him to be more respectful to others' work? Thank you.

(cur) (last) 16:06, 10 November 2006 User:Khoikhoi (Talk | contribs) (rv to last version by me) (what last revision? this is a whole sale deletion and vandalism, is it not?) (cur) (last) 14:59, 10 November 2006 User:Incir (Talk | contribs) (→External links) (cur) (last) 14:26, 10 November 2006 User:88.242.84.98 (Talk) (→See also) (cur) (last) 06:19, 10 November 2006 User:71.162.66.250 (Talk) (→An Overview in A Nutshell) (cur) (last) 05:59, 10 November 2006 User:71.162.66.250 (Talk) (→International relations)

[edit] Templates

Please take a look

Regards Mustafa Akalp^TC 15:05, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem

Hi, I noticed there may be a problem with the image copyright at Image:GirneMarina.jpg. You said you were publishing it under a free license, but the permission e-mail from the photographer seems to be saying "yanlız söylediğiniz sitenizde kullanabilirsiniz" ('you may use it only on your site that you mentioned'). That makes it a non-free license, since the photographer has explicitly not given permission to redistribute it to other sites, which is a prerequisite of GFDL and the other free licenses.

I'm afraid I'll have to delete that image in a short while unless you can obtain a better license from the photographer.

Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamshenis

Hey, ça va? I just put a post about in that talk page about two politicians.. I wasn't around when this article was written, so do you have any more info on the sources for those two? Cheers! Baristarim 21:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok.. I am not knowledgable about the subject either, so that's why I asked.. tx Baristarim 21:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hamshenis

Hi Cretanforever, "User:Macukali wrote a beautiful article on Hamshenis in the Turkish wikipedia" is from your message to Baristarim. Whatis the name of that article in Turkish wiki. Thanks. WhiteHero 22:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template-project

Ok.I am in Trwiki.please goto project page.RegardsMust^TC 07:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cooperation board launched

A new (and overdue) Greek and Turkish cooperation and notification board has been launched here. Stop by, have a look and sound off! Cheers! Baristarim 07:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)