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[edit] Uniquely native

If they're uniquely native to the United States, how does one explain their presence in the bogs near Ottawa and Kingston in Canada? I drove by some wild ones at the side of the road just yesterday. Are they an introduced species this far north? -- Paul Drye

oh, *I'd* cut it on the grounds of an offensive use of the word 'uniquely'. --MichaelTinkler

Okay, how bout

uniquely native to the the north American continent

I think Crannies where introduced to Canada and mid-west US well after cultivating in MA got going. It you know for sure pls make changes or corrections.

how about 'native to the Whatever'. --MichaelTinkler, who hates hates hates the word 'unique' in all its manifestations.

The plant only grows in one area of the planet, under unusual conditions (wet, sandy bogs), doesn't that make it unique to that area ?

Cranberries were found all over northern North America (wherever bogs are found) when the Europeam settlers arrived. More than likely the native inbabitants greatly enlarged the range of the plant. --- hajhouse
FYI, Cranberries are native throughout the cool temperate Northern Hemisphere, including Britain, Scandinavia, and the whole of Russia, as well as Canada and parts of the US. - MPF
According to the Encyclopedia Britannica (2005), "The small-fruited, or northern, cranberry (V. oxycoccus) is found in marshy land in northern North America and Asia and in northern and central Europe." and "The American cranberry (V. macrocarpon) is found wild in the greater part of the northeastern United States." (EB does not mention The V. microcarpon and V. erythrocarpum varieties mentioned in the Wikipedia article.) -- O.M. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.108.82.59 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

Is that one sassaman, two sassamanash? -phma

I think they grow them here in WA and also in Oregon -- don't know if they're native, though. We have Lingonberries, too -- They aren't native! Useful info? I think not! JHK

[edit] White Cranberries

Anybody happen to know anything about white cranberries? I frequently see "white cranberry" juice for sale, but I do not know whether this refers to:

  1. A separate species of cranberry
  2. Juice made from colorless berries sorted apart from the red ones thatgrow on the same bushes
  3. A marketing term for a colorless liquid that happens to taste like cranberries

Anybody know?

I am a cranberry grower in Bandon, Oregon and I can answer this one for you.

The answer is ----- Juice made from colorless berries sorted apart from the red ones that grow on the same vines. And --- as needed, some cranberry bogs are picked very early before the cranberries turn red. They aren't really "white" but more green. Simply put... they aren't really ripe yet. The good news is: they have the same nutritional value as ripe ones and they don't stain.

Hope this helps! If anyone else has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them.

Legend said cranberries were once called bounceberries because of the way they bounced. Double-check on the validity of it.

Dried cranberries can also be eaten - should be listed under "Uses"

[edit] Elven dwarves?

Is this statement about cranberries even true? I have never heard such a thing. --DrippingInk 00:48, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cranberry map

Can anyone explain the cranberry map - ie sources? Wisconsin is the leading producer of cranberries in the US, but its not in any color range on that map. That just seems wrong. Ehlkej 22:09, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll check. But the map is to show the native distribution, which is not necessarily the same as where they are cultivated as farm crops - MPF 14:02, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] false berry?

The false berry article says that cranberries are not true berries; is this correct? If so, the article should be corrected similar to blueberry, but I don't know enough on the subject to avoid being mistaken. -- nae'blis (talk) 10:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

According to http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/book/chap7/cranberry.html and a few other obscure but authoritative (government or university) online sources, the Cranberry is a true berry. Changing it back.
Bvbacon 20:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Marketing and economics" addition

This large chunk of text was inserted by an anon on 27 July; it has the look of a copyvio, tho' I can't find it on the internet anywhere. It is also only relevant to the USA with no global context (Canada, Scandinavia, etc). Anyone any ideas what to do with it? Delete? Heavy prune? Expand with info for other regions and split off into a separate article? - MPF 12:22, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

This section was written by a university scientist who is very knowledgeable about north american cranberry production. As there is VERY LITTLE cranberry production outside of the US and Canada there is little reason to have information about marketing etc. for Scandinavia. Perhaps more information could be included about Canada. This is still a work in progress. I suggest that this section be returned back to the main article {unsigned comment}

I think the article is currently good, but I'd like to see more statistics, like a table or graph of annual production quantities and wholesale prices. Until that happens, it would be good to have a direct link to http://www.library.wisc.edu/guides/agnic/cranberry/marketing.htm 69.87.204.179 00:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Barrel?
The article quotes wholesale prices per barrel. It should tell us how big a barrel of cranberries is. 69.87.203.56 02:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pesticides

The current article pretends there are no current pesticide issues. It should tell us about recent/current pesticides, and what percent of the crop is organic. 69.87.203.56 02:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freezing

Does freezing impact nutrition? 69.87.203.56 02:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drying

Are there any commercial sources of dried cranberries that are not sweetened? Cranberries are healthy, but sugar is not particularly desireable. Some people like the straight taste. What are the best ways to dry at home? Here are some sources: How do you make dried cranberries? Sugar-Free Dried Cranberries 69.87.203.56 02:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fenberries

I went to a medieval-style restaurant the other day and ordered a dish called fenberrie pye, which consisted of pork, chicken, and cranberries. I was told by the cook that fenberries are another name for cranberries, but I have found no other source of information on this. So, are fenberries and cranberries the same? If fenberries truly are a synonym for cranberries, then I think it would warrant a mention in the article. FrogofTime 23:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a synonym, but was an old name for Vaccinium oxycoccus in Europe - growing in fens. Meggar 05:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commercial availability

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Are cranberries generally available in grocery stores all year or only certain months? -- Beland 22:28, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

In Massachusetts, they seem to be in the local grocery stores fresh whole from about October to January.-69.87.200.184 13:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Why can't I find Ocean Spray Fresh Cranberries all year?
"We harvest fresh cranberries in the fall, filling the produce section at your local supermarket with lots of the bright red berries. Fresh cranberries are generally available in early October through December. Cranberries may be frozen, so we suggest that you stock up on extra cranberries around Thanksgiving to use throughout the year."[1]-69.87.200.184 13:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Netherlands

The American cranberry is also grow on two dutch isles, Terschelling and Vlieland and is also found on the mainland, but only rarely though. It all started when a barrel of cranberries drifted ashore at Terschelling in 1840 (romantic isn't it). Might be nice to mention. Check dutch cranberry wiki if you know any dutch ;) 86.87.75.160 00:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pricing

United States -- Cents per pound -- Table 6--Cranberries: Total production and season-average prices received by growers[2]

  • 2002 32.2
  • 2003 33.9
  • 2004 34.7

MASSACHUSETTS CRANBERRIES: Acres, Yield, Production, Utilization, Price and Value, 2002 – 2006[3]
Price Per Barrel

  • Fresh - Processed - All
  • 2002 50.30 30.70 32.80
  • 2003 56.30 32.30 34.10
  • 2004 54.80 30.60 32.60
  • 2005 55.90 32.90 34.90
  • 2006 57.20 35.00 36.80

-69.87.200.184 13:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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