User talk:Coren

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Contents 1 A reminder to sign 2 Zeest 3 Ecumenical excommunication 4 Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sonic:_Isn't_That_a_Restaurant? 5 no position on the subject? 6 New Antisemitism 7 Thanks for the revert 8 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 9 WikiProject France

[edit] A reminder to sign

As a courtesy for other editors on Wikipedia, please sign your talk page and user talk page posts. By adding four tildes (~) at the end of your comments, your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added. DVD+ R/W 03:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Oops! Where? Coren 03:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nfomedia. DVD+ R/W 03:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! Fixed. Coren 03:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zeest

hi Coren,

yes I appreciate that it seems that this article does not come close to satisfying some of the criteria in WP:MUSIC. However, as this band will never be able to officially release a single, ( the 'moral' censor boards in the Indian subcontinent are quite particular about banning songs which contain explicit lyrics, which is a particular motif of zeest songs) the band is already precluded from quite a few of the criteria mentoined in WP:MUSIC

However, this article does meet one criterion; it has been featured in the 'Mid day' a very popular newspaper in mumbai [[1]] and on a news website [[2]]

I will also try and get a few more users from the Indian subcontinent to add thier views on the vfd page (we seem to be disproportionally represented on wiki)...anyway thanks for reading (Saurabhb 14:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC))

• (Moving the discussion to talk:Zeest) Coren 17:32, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ecumenical excommunication

Glad you enjoyed it! --Bucketsofg 21:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sonic:_Isn't_That_a_Restaurant?

Ah, just riffing off the nomination :-) Thanks, for the complement though. Gwernol 00:11, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] no position on the subject?

I've just read your comment on Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-04-16 New anti-Semitism. Having no position on such an important issue is IMHO not very plausible. Raphael1 03:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Antisemitism

I wonder why you completely ignore my comments?

--Denis Diderot 13:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[response interleaved] Coren 23:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. Let me just very briefly explain why I asked.

In this long comment I wrote: "Different people who speak or write about 'the new anti-Semitism' or 'a new anti-Semitism' attach different meanings to the expression. There are several concepts of 'new anti-Semitism'."

On the case page, you wrote: "The term new anti-Semitism has consistent meaning"

I don't think I can agree with you after my review of the literature. While there are subtle differences amongst users of the term, those are best left to explain in the article proper. Your point about the inclusiveness or not of "old anti-Semitism" is well taken, and I'll try to work it in the introduction. Mind you, I still think that's a comparatively minor point of difference since the users who use the inclusive form nonetheless recognize the fundamental (Left-based, ideological) concept (otherwise they wouldn't be using new anti-Semitism at all).

In the same comment I wrote that "a concept can't be controversial as such. Only some claim made _about_ the concept can be controversial."

(Do opponents object to this use: "there is no such thing as a new anti-Semitism" ?)

You stated that "Opponents of the term agree on the meaning of the term, but object to its use".

In order to claim (meaningfully) that there is no such thing as X, you have to agree on what X means in the first place. I can understand that "Floob" means "seven-legged horse" without agreeing that horses can have seven legs. Likewise, opponents of "new anti-Semitism" (that I've read) dispute its nature or existence (of the concept) but nonetheless understand what is meant by the term.

Perhaps "[...] but object to its use [...]" is poorly phrased. I'm wrestling with the actual text of the introduction to convey what I meant perhaps in a better way.

(I also wrote something similar in this comment on the case page)

So perhaps you misunderstood my comments or perhaps I've misunderstood your findings. In any case, it was a bit strange to be contradicted without any argument.

--Denis Diderot 20:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

No. Simply put, I think your comments bring valuable information but that the place to expand on those topics is in the main article rather than the introduction. Coren 23:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

• Note: I'm going to copy this exchange to the Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-04-16_New_anti-Semitism case page so that others can read it as well. Coren 23:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

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I'm so sorry that SlimVirgin has objected to your mediatorship. If it's any consolation, this has little to do with your number of edits and everything to do with the fact that she didn't like your first draft. TreveX^talk 12:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the revert

Hey, thanks for catching the vandalism to my user page and reverting it. Much appreciated. Gwernol 03:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] WikiProject France

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