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[edit] Doctor Who Chronology

Hi, Coreman. Over at the Doctor Who WikiProject we've only just noticed your rather impressive Doctor Who Chronology. As a fellow Doctor Who fan I recognize the appeal and value of a page like this, putting all the Doctor's adventures from sundry media into order. Unfortunately, there may be problems with having this page in its current form on Wikipedia. Specifically, it may be in violation of Wikipedia's no original research policy, which excludes "any new analysis or synthesis of published data, statements, concepts, arguments, or ideas", or any content which "introduces a synthesis of established facts in a way that builds a particular case... without attributing the synthesis to a reputable source." Even though Big Finish helpfully provides "production codes" which show how they hope to fit each audio in, the consolidation of all those production codes and "this audio follows..." notes into a single document constitutes original research, I fear. So does the presentation of Big Finish's "seasons".

There's also a concern about the list and the neutral point of view policy. In the case of Doctor Who's chronology, there is no official BBC policy about how to fit the television series, audios and novels together, and (as you probably know) fans differ on exactly what is canonical. If we present a chronology with the TV series and audios, some fans will ask how we justify keeping out the novels, or the Doctor Who Magazine comic. Others will say, "only the TV series counts" and object to implicitly giving Big Finish the same status as the TV series. Finally, there are some questions about exactly where some stories fit — the BBC novels don't explictly state which TV stories they fit between, and then there's the thorny question of how to rectify the various lives of the Eighth Doctor. (You're probably familiar with the arguments here.)

There are several websites which have attempted, or are attempting, to create what Russell T. Davies has called "the Complete History of the Doctor". These include the Doctor Who Reference Guide, the Canon-Keeper's Guide at Outpost Gallifrey, and The Doctor's Biography (still in development) at the Whoniverse. If you look closely at these, you'll notice that they don't tally up exactly — that's because the authors have had to make judgment calls about places where the continuity is unclear, and their judgments don't always agree. Since Wikipedia has to be neutral, we can't take sides in disputes like that. However, we could have an article which points readers towards these different efforts, without taking sides between them.

It would be great if you could join the discussion of the chronology page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who#Doctor Who Chronology. I hope you understand that this is not a criticism of the work you've done on the chronology page itself — we just need to stay within Wikipedia's rules. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:10, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

P.S. If we can't save the page in its current form, you might be able to move it to TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who wiki at Wikicities, which isn't restricted by the same policies as Wikipedia proper. It's another option to consider.

[edit] Date formats

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). Tim! 07:55, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Big Finish chronology

DWM 380 does in fact contain details of the three post-100 releases. This is a reliable source : they're not just going to make stuff up - it will be based on Big Finish press release or contacts with them.... Morwen - Talk 23:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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