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Plagarized source http://halosm.bungie.org/story/cortana.html --70.24.219.247 15:54, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] The Voice Actor of Cortana
Hi! I'm new to this wikipedia contributioning so I'll post the info here instead, the actress who does Cortanas voice is Jen Taylor, who has also done Princess voice in Mario Bros. For more info on more Computergame voice actors see this article in the seattlepi
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/theater/289468_gamevoices23.html
I hope that someone who knows the wikipedia contribution system and way better than I do can have some use for it.
Cheers!
[edit] Possible cleanup?
I think this page needs cleanup and organization. The one heading it has is hardly organization. Someone needs to reorganize everything and section it out. It would be easier if there was a little more information, too. Basically, I'm just suggesting a cleanup tag be put at the top of this article.
[edit] Okay.
I have placed the tag, I don't have time to work on this, but I will.
[edit] Amiguities Regarding Loyalty
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- Towards the end of halo 2, it would appear that cortana is having difficulty dealing with the intelligence known as gravemind. Also after the credits, there is a dialog between cortana and gravemind indicating that she will answer questions that are put to her. While this is heavily open to interpretation, it may constitute evidence that cortana has been comprimised in some way. cite - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Halo_characters in the gravemind section. I havent read any of the books, so my comments arent fully researched. With the advent of the Halo 3 trailer, this ambiguity of her "state of mind" is intentional. cite - http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=weeklyupdatemay1206
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- It would appear that this topic has already been addressed and reverted in previous edits in the main article. With the new (citable) information regarding halo 3 (see above), would it not be wise to note that it is under dispute? or at the very least comment that gravemind proved a competent adversary?
[edit] Sword vs. Source
Bungie has made it expressly clear that Cortana is saying "Sword" in the announcement trailer. Any statements that she is saying "source" are incorrect. Peptuck 05:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for this? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
[1] Specifically:
- SlimJim0045 asks,
Please have Cortana's lines pronounced so that I don't see 36 threads about it. "I have defied gods and demons." "I am your shield, I am your SWORD." "I know you, your past, your future." "This is the way the world ends."
Peptuck 19:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] hair
does her hair gow or something
- She's a holographic AI. She can change her physical appearance however she wants. Peptuck 08:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- I think that her color might also change depending on her mood (see her in Installation 04's control room for example.) Plus the bits of data runing across her "skin" reflect what she is thinking at the time, though such data is often indecipherably complex to most people. - Fearless Son 22:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cortana and Master Cheif (And a little on her loyalties...)
The article states that there may be some attatchment between Cortana and MC, while the books Halo: The Fall of Reach and Halo: The Flood make it quite clear that there most definately is.
In Halo: TFoR, Cortana is assigned to *cough* erm--forcefully chooses to be MC's MJOLNIR AI (this event is actually quite comical). The book states that she 'would do everything in her power to make sure he was never hurt again'. While this statement does make clear that she has an attatchment to MC, while it does not specify whether this attachment is one of affection or pity. However, in Halo: The Flood, it is revealed that Cortana has a deep-seated affection for MC.
- Cortana was created out of a cloned brain of Dr. Hasley, and thus has much in common with Hasley, as is demonstrated in Halo: The Fall of Reach. Dr. Hasley has also been shown to be very protective of her Spartans, in all the books but especially in Halo: First Strike and Halo: Ghosts of Onyx. I think that protective nature has extended to Cortana as well. - Fearless Son 22:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I have not yet had the chance to play Halo 2 in it's entirety, and it's been a year since I played it at all, so I don't remember all of the interactions between Cortana and MC.
Personally, I believe that Cortana's loyalties lie first with UNSC and second with MC. Her actions in Halo 2 and those seen in the H3 trailer are quite interesting, though...
EDIT: After reading all three books in their entirety, especially Halo: First Strike, It seems that there may be something wrong with Cortana. On the Covenant Flagship Ascendant Justice, she copies herself into the ship's memory core, and the following occurs:
- "She distantly felt...her mind blur and replicate, assembled line by line into its new location within the Ascendant Justice. It felt strange. Not that it was strange she could think in more than one place about mote than one thing at the same time--she was used to multiprocessing. This was a different strange--as if she had a glimpse into something wonderful...and infinite." (Halo: First Strike p. 196)
Does this statement hint at rampancy? It sounds kind of like it.
- One thing that I notice about people speculating on Cortana in Marathon terms is that they worry that she is going rampant. I do not believe that is really applicable. Notice how in the Marathon universe the "Holy Grail" of cybernetics is a "stable" rampant A.I., one who displays the growth and intelligence of rampancy yet is still controlable. Look at Contana, she is already there. She has had the limits on her intellectual growth removed in order to increase her intelligence, the side effect being that she will eventually outgrow her own capacity and thus "die." - Fearless Son 22:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Age?
What year in the Halo Universe was she created?
[edit] Corana and Durendal
I'm not sure how to add this to this article and thus leave it here in hopes of someone who does coming along. The Durendal article says that a legendary sword was inscribed "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal." Given the AI Durandal in the Marathon series and the closeness of the Marathon and Halo series... --Kizor 15:52, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is simply one of the quirks of Bungie. They named Cortana after another legendary sword from the same era as Durandal as a means of catching the attention of Marathon Fans. This was done initially in "The Cortana Letters" sent to the Marathon's Story web page to build hype. The letters were written with Durandal-like tones so a deliberately similar name was chosen. They kept the name for the character in the game, because it kept fans of Marathon guessing and thus held their intetest. - Fearless Son 22:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cortana in Trailer
I never heard anything like "Leave me" by cortana in the ESPN trailer. She said "Chief?". Thats it.
- Its barely audible, but a female voice very similar to the one that says "Chief, chief...." is audible, saying "Leave me." Peptuck 05:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cortana?
When you kill Keyes on the Truth and Reconsilitation level, Cortana says something like "No... Without the captain... The covenant-" and then gets cut off with the respawn. What is the full part?-—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.34.30.166 (talk • contribs).
- Cortana only speaks two lines after you kill Keyes, and they don't have to do anything with the captain... the transcripts of the mission can be found here if you're interested. Dåvid Fuchs [talk • contribs] 01:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Truth and Reconsilitation level, not ship... I meant when you kill him after you rescue him. Sorry if I made any misunderstandment. I'll look for the level from it though. Thanks.
[edit] Notablity
Okay, so we've been having an argument lately over whether this article meets the requirements for notability. I would like to point out that, according to WP:FICT, Major characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be covered within the article on that work of fiction. If an encyclopedic treatment of such a character causes the article on the work itself to become long, then that character can be given a separate article.
Now, I don't think anyone can deny that Cortana is a major character in the overarching Halo series, and if what Bungie has been saying lately is any indication, she'll be even more important. I also think that its fairly clear that the List of Halo series characters page is already very long as it is. So, I don't think the article requires third party sourcing any more than the other million and a half articles on Wikipedia.
While I agree that every article needs third party sourcing, I would point out that the vast, vast, vast majority of articles about fictional characters, objects, locations, and the like on Wikipedia do not have an immense amount (or even basic level of) third-party sourcing. Unless we're going to start throwing out giant, ugly templates on every one of these articles, I don't think Cortana's article deserves it anymore than any other article relating to fictional characters. And third-party sourcing is not necessary for an article on fictional characters, as the above passage I quoted lays out.
I think what we really need to work on here is applying a sufficiently encyclopedic treatement on the Cortana article so that it can exist on its own without having to necessarily meet notability requirements. This means doing out of universe work, slimming down what is present, and filling in all the gaps (that Halo 2 section is so short and sparse it makes me cry). This does not mean we should be waging a silly edit war over tags and templates that may not even be needed.
Thoughts? Peptuck 05:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Addendum: in checking the notability critereon for fiction page, it backs up my assertion above that Cortana, being a major character in the Halo series, rates her own article so long as we can apply an appropriate encyclopedic entry. Peptuck 01:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
