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This page is useless all i want to no is what the population of corfu was in 1991 and i cant find it grrrrr i hate this page!!!!

  • The population for 1991 is given under the "Population" section. Paul Weaver 08:13, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


I would like to know how many public libraries and also how many of any other type of library is in Corfu

[edit] Thinalio is wrong !!!

This word should be edited, the correct name is Thinali. I live in this municipality and would like to create an article about it but I will not do it under the false name Thinalio which is not correct. Someone edit it please into Thinali. I have already created a website about it in greek under the url http://www.thinali.com Even the official site of the Thinali Municipality defines itsself as Thinali: http://www.corfu-north.com/ Viruswitch 13:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Why didn't you edit it yourself, then? This is "a free encyclopedia which anyone can edit". Duja 08:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)



Errrr, I dont know how to edit it? Maybe I should give it a try. The problem was that it has been marked and linked as a requested article, if I edit it the wrong page "thinalio" might still exist. Anyway, let me try. Viruswitch 13:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

There, I fixed it. You have "Edit this page" tab at every page, as well as [Edit] links at every article's section. From there, the procedure is pretty self-telling, especially if you want only to correct the spelling and minor errors. Target page Thinalio did not exist, as the link was red, as is Thinali as well. Duja 07:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks. :) I wonder how we can edit the box with the "Municipalities of the prefecture of Corfu" at the bottom of the page. It still has a Thinalio in there. I cant see it in edit page thought. Viruswitch 08:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ionian University

When the author says "now" in the following passage, what exactly is here meant? Now means when?

"Corfu now also has a university named University of Corfu"

Born and raised in Corfu, I have not heard of this University. We have here the Ionian University, which also has its own site online in english: http://www.ionio.gr/univ-eng.htm (http://www.ionio.gr) Viruswitch 22:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corfu Town

"The town is as mundane as Rome, looks like Venice and has the flair of Cuba."

What does this mean? How is Corfu as mundane as Rome? Where are the canals? I didn't know Cuba had a flair.

[edit] World War I

I just can't believe that there is absolutely no trace of Serbian army and people being on Corfu during WWI. It was the great exodus of Serbs to Corfu under Austro-Hungarian invasion on Serbia and the army and the people were transported to this island by the Allied ships to heal, rest and regroup. After returning to front line fron Corfu, Serbian army broke through Thessaloniki front and that was the beginning of the end of WWI.BJovan 18:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I've removed all of the "promotional" images from tourism websites. We have plenty of free, reusable images for this article at Wikimedia Commons, and no excuse to publish work done by photographers for the purpose of making other websites more appealing. I'd like to encourage editors here to be more cautious in their usage of unfreely-copyrighted media in the future. Jkelly 19:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. There are no equivalent images to those that you removed in the Commons. I checked Commons prior to searching for those images. Wikipedia has the promotional images category for a reason, to illustrate items that are not available in its image database, removing them this way without even attempting any discussion is uncalled for. Dr.K. 22:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Please do not revert unfree image cleanup in the future. Jkelly 17:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I provided a fair use rationale this time. The matter must go to mediation. Dr.K. 17:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Please refrain from removing my images without warning. This is counter to consensus building in Wikipedia. Dr.K. 17:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Concern about the images in this article were brought to Wikipedia_talk:Fair_use#Overusage_of_fair-use_images a couple of days ago. These are not, in any way, "your" images. They are the work of people who expect to be paid when they are published. Unfree content uploaded to Wikimedia projects may be deleted if not absolutely essential. This usage is not even remotely close to being essential. You have been pointed to free, reuable content that anyone can use to illustrate this article. Please be more careful about republishing copyrighted media here. Jkelly 19:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
First, let me make clear that I used the words my images to denote that they were uploaded by me not that they were mine. If they were mine I would have used a different license tag and we wouldn't be having this discussion now.
Second, when you first deleted the images it would have helped if you attached the link you provided above so that I had a frame of reference. Now that I understand the nature of the debate I can make a better decision.
Third, I disagree with your opinion that these images were not essential. Without going into a debate about the History of Corfu, it is sufficient to point out that the few images that Wikipedia commons has don't even come close to provide a satisfactory pictorial account of the island's history. I know one Achilles statue looks exactly like another to the external observer as well as churches, palaces etc. but my intention was not to make the article into a postcard. Historical accuracy needs appropriate images and in Wikipedia commons the material needed for the article such as pictures of the Venetian Blazons, St. George's church the only Doric style church in Corfu, St. Spyridon's bell tower in Liston etc. etc. is simply not there. To imply that these images are interchangeable with the Achilleion pictures and a few others in Wikipedia commons is simply wrong on many levels.
Fourth, if Wikipedia has such a problem then it should issue clearer guidelines. Edit reversals without warning is not an adequate substitute for policy. Dr.K. 19:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
They are the work of people who expect to be paid when they are published. Those people are not entitled to be paid for a fair use of a work - that's not part of their package of rights. Please let me know if you'd like me to provide an appropriate legal decision on this matter. no excuse to publish work done by photographers for the purpose of making other websites more appealing was not the purpose of the images, as has been amply explained already, both here and in the image captions. That purpose was to illustrate aspects of Corfu, not solely for decoration. Kindly apply the law as it is, not as you might wish it to be. You appear to have a motive here in favor of more strong authors rights that seems to be interfering with your judgment on Wikipedia issues. Jamesday 01:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I do have feelings about author's rights. You seem to have strong feelings about United States fair use doctrine. Neither of those feelings matter much. We work within Wikipedia:Fair use criteria. It is possible for a freely-licensed, reusable image to be created to replace these objects. Our interest here is to create a free, reusable encyclopedia, not to milk whatever we can out of other people's work under one country's law. Jkelly 03:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Jamesday. The points he makes are reasonable and fair as well as culturally sensitive and perceptive. I also think that the problem here is that Jkelly is being too proactive in defending authors' rights against established use of US fair use tags in Wikipedia. People use these tags for valid reasons and because they are available to use. Jkelly's vision of an imagewise self sufficient Wikipedia is not bad, but cannot be done overnight and at light speed using a couple of unfortunate articles. If Wikipedia wishes to ban use of fair use images so be it. But we have to agree on this change of policy as a community and not by unannounced wholesale removal of images based on short discussions. Dr.K. 16:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
This isn't "an unfortunate article", that I chose at random as part of a campaign for "authors' rights". What happened here is that another editor came to Wikipedia talk:Fair use with specific concern about the overuse of unfree content in this article. Three different editors looked at the article and agreed it was a problem. I removed the unfree content. There's a story being told here about my motivations and the status of these images that is rapidly heading towards fantasy. Jkelly 16:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tone

There are a number of places where the writing is too clever or cute, and others where there is boosterism:

  • and being a god dispensed with the usual formalities of asking her hand from dad (a lowly river after all as compared to Poseidon's mighty oceans),
  • Myth, romance and beauty, with a sprinkling of adventure for good measure, centred around the element of water have been the hallmarks of the island ever since, fittingly called the emerald isle to this day
  • every rising power in the region started to want of a piece of the action in Corfu
  • things settled quite a bit

That's just from the long article lead. It is possible to be both compelling and formal at the same time. Jkelly 22:33, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Let's not forget that we are talking about introducing Corfu mythologically. Mythology is sometimes lighthearted. I tried to convey that. Don't forget that this section deals with a rather light subject. It is not a Shakespearean play analysis. Dr.K. 22:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for not logging in; this is just a brief note about the "venetian blazons": the lion mentioned here is the lion of Saint Mark, the symbol of Venice both at home an in its overseas territories. The book is the Bible and refers to the fact that Saint Mark was an Evangelist, a Gospel author. You will find the book in every instance of the lion, not just in Corfù.

[edit] Music and festivities

The photo under the music and festivities section is a picture of an austrian band who visited Corfu a couple of years ago and not the Old Philharmonic (photos of the Old Philharmonic can be found on the band's website (www.fek.gr)). Also, the Funeral March from Beethoven's Eroica is played by the Capodistria Philharmonic not the Old Philharmonic. Sorry I'm only reporting these and not correcting them myself but I don't know how. Thank you. 194.219.255.38 17:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Naus194.219.255.38 17:16, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I changed the caption to a marching band some time ago. I'll change it to an Austrian band. This band visited again this August 2006. That's when the picture was taken. Dr.K. 22:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
I changed the caption. Thanks for the info. Dr.K. 22:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Changed the Philharmonic details as well. Ευχαριστώ. Dr.K. 22:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highest point

The text article says that the highest point is in the mountain range of San Salvador at 1000 metres, but if you click on the link for Mount Pantokrator the highest point is at 914 metres. Anyone know which is correct?

Pantokrator at 914, I'm pretty sure. Duja 09:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It is Pantokrator at 914. Dr.K. 22:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Took out the 1000m. Thanks. Dr.K. 23:01, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of Corfu

I am not sure how to add it, but here it is if anyone has time:

http://www.atlasgeo.net/fotw/flags/gr-corf.html

Reaper7 14:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name Origin

There seems to be some misleading or conflicting statements regarding the origin of the name "Corfu": ".. its name is connected to two powerful water symbols" versus "The name Corfu is an Italian corruption of the Byzantine Κορυφώ (Koryphō), meaning city of the peaks, which is derived from the Greek Κορυφαί (Koryphai), meaning Crests or Peaks, denoting the two peaks of the fortresses that enclose the city." gnomelock 16:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

No conflict exists. The two references refer to the two versions of the island's name: The Greek version: Kerkyra which is connected to the two water symbols (father and suitor) and the foreign version Corfu which derives from the peaks etc. Dr.K. 07:22, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Nonetheless I clarified same in article. Thanks for the suggestion. Au revoir. Dr.K. 07:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Corfu incident (1923)

A little information regarding the 1923 Corfu incident would be nice. The article about this incident is also very short. Valentinian T / C 12:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll look into this. Good idea. Thanks for the suggestion. Tasos (Dr.K. 01:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Any map??

Could we add a map? we need a map.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Onur prg (talk • contribs) 20:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Here are a few:



Valentinian T / C 20:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Valentinian! What a nice surprise! I'm so glad to see you here of all places! It's been such a long time. How are you? Thanks for the great pics. I'll take the map and replace the satellite photo that doesn't look very informative. Take care. Dr.K. 01:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
The feeling is mutual and I'm glad you could use the map. Jkelly is right, this article has come a long way and it looks very promising. I'm fine myself, but unfortunately I have very little editing time at the moment as I'm working on my master's. Take care. Jesper. Valentinian T / C 07:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
All the best for your Master's and then onward to PhD! Your scholarship is such that this won't be very difficult. Let's keep in touch. Au revoir. Tasos (Dr.K. 01:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] State of article

This article has come a long way, and is really quite good. It may be time to take it to Wikipedia:Peer review to expose it to more editors and solicit feedback. Jkelly 20:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks JK. You are the admin. you start this up. I hate procedural matters ;). Dr.K. 01:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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