Talk:Content management system
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[edit] Still too focused on web content managment
We know that this page has gone back and forth a few times, but I believe it's still too focused on web content managment. A web CMS typically has a small portion of the functionality of an enterprise level CMS, yet the focus of this entry keeps moving back to the web based feature set.
So, how can we organize it so that those who are focused on web based CMS can get their information in, and those of us who spend a lot of time with enterprise level CMS don't have to keep adding that information back in?
Here's my thought:
- Introduction
- A high level overview of the purpose of CMS
- Types of CMS
- Define enterprise level, periodical focused (such as for newspapers), web focused, and any other style people can think of
- Subsections for each of the above defined types of CMS.
What do y'all think?
- I agree that more stuff on non-web CMSs needs to be included. I think the article should have an overview, then straight into a description of each different type of CMS, rather than having a definition section. Talrias (t | e | c) 18:59, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Motivation?
I came to this page looking for and not finding the motivation for using a content management system. What are they good for? What are they bad for? What sorts of people would want to use them? What might I use instead if a CMS is over the top? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.236.133.63 (talk • contribs).
- There isn't a black-and-white answer. From personal experience, I'd say you'd need a content management system of you are publishing information that (1) changes periodically, but where older revisions should be stored and tracked, and or (2) the information is published in different formats (e.g., plain text emails, HTML newsletters, PDFs, etc.). That's an extremely high-level take on it from a non-specialist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've tried putting helpful articles on this page. Stuff like "What is CMS?" "Do you need CMS?" and "How to buy a CMS", all written from neutral POV. It's too bad you couldn't find the answers you sought.
[edit] A bit outdated?
Surely with today's CMS products Transactional, Publication and Learning CMS's are really under the same umbrella as any normal CMS product? By differentiating it just muddies the water for people trying to pick up the details? In regards to Integrated CMS, this must come under the heading of a DMS?
I've put back the link to a list of content management systems and removed a couple of the links to web content management systems. I'm assuming a mistake was made.
[edit] External links?
Ofcourse, the links in this article are an excellent way for CMS vendors to further their own cause *ahem*. That means regular cleaning of those links is neccessary.
Apart from that, I think it'd be useful to add in some links to professional organisations (AIIM, CMPros) and some general overview sites and/or blogs? I'll look some up and add them in, feel free to elaborate on them.
But please... no specific systems, on last count there were over 1800 worldwide and there's no room for all of those here ;)
I checked CMPros on June 5 2006 and got a blank page.
[edit] Popular Open Source Content Management Systems - removed
I'm removing the "Popular Open Source Content Management Systems" section from this article, since it both calls for edit wars and is quite unverifiable what systems should be there or not. Note that wikipedia provides a list of CMS systems that does not make unverifiable assumptions about popularity. --Sindri 17:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed references to Atlantic Webfitters
The Vendor Neutral Article Debate is over... I trust no one will mind this content being removed?
[edit] The history section
The history section just got blanked (with the rest of the article) and replaced by a generic description. I reverted, but in the process I noted that the history section is pretty weak. It starts with Vignette (appropriate, I think), then talks about Pencom, which I don't think of as such a significant system--I might be wrong about that, seems a little spammy though. But surely there's more to the history of CMS's than that? I am no expert, but I'm hoping someone who is might pitch in on this. How about ArsDigita Community System? Slash? The advent of small, PHP-based open source systems like Drupal, Plone or Nucleus? Etc., etc. · rodii · 13:07, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nice Topice
very helpful link to primarily understand CMS
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[edit] Directories of available systems
What happened to all these sites?
[edit] External Link Suggestion
I've just had a suggested link to a list of pre-approved UK CRM Experts and Vendors deleted from the external list: http://www.approvedindex.co.uk/indexes/ApprovedCMS/free-quote.aspx. I'm puzzled how other sites doing exactly the same e.g. Content Management 365, CMS-Zone etc all seem to be allowed to link to their sites?? Could somebody point out the difference please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.253.104.160 (talk • contribs) .
- You added a link, I removed it. I haven't checked the existing links. If you think other links are business spam too, feel free to remove them. Femto 12:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Definition (first sentence)
The first sentence of the article defines the term using all three words found in the term. Is it possible to define the term without repeating ourselves? Mattbrundage 04:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Good idea. How about something in plain English such as "A Content Management System is one of many means by which web sites can be created and edited." - ? John259 07:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- A Content Management System is one of many means by which web sites can be created and edited. - no, in this case it's only a WCM Web Content Management System! There is a lot of other content around, that's too narrow ... Kff 17:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Out of focus?
Are document management and workflow in the scope of content management systems - what is the difference than between content management and document management for example?! Enterprise content management is not mentioned at all - is an ECMS a special CMS?! What about the relation to content syndication, portals, content integration - are these only similar systems or are these special content management systems?! What about standards for CMS - interoperability is a strong issue today?! In regard to ECM at least there is a new publication with definitions: ECM Enterprise Content Management, Ulrich Kampffmeyer. Hamburg 2006, ISBN 978-3-936534-09-8 (English, French, German), PDF. 80.171.132.88 13:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
By the way - ODMA is completely outdated, JSR 170, JSR 283, WebDAV and other standards are important today! 80.171.132.88 13:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- ODMA is outdated and was focussed on document management systems. Kff 17:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Appology for mistake
I was running my random Lupin spellchecker and totally didn't realize that this was a vandalized page. Please accept my appology. I will spellcheck a little slower next time. Regards. Wiki Raja 06:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] SAtish
hai this is satish saying hai to every one —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.12.19.66 (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Vandalism
Is it me or is this page getting hit with far more vandalism than other articles? The rate at which this page gets blanked, replaced with nonsense or abused as a sandbox is unbelievable. Maybe it should be temporarily protected? --- Arancaytar - avá artanhé (reply) 00:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
