Talk:Conor Cruise O'Brien

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Contents 1 Wandering off-topic?..... 2 Headings 3 Getting mauled 4 Cruise 5 Dodgy usage?

[edit] Wandering off-topic?.....

Towards the end of December, user Ali-oops restored the commentaries about Bowen-Colthurst and WB Yeats, which someone (not me) had earlier deleted. The summary comment for the restoration asked why verifiable info was deleted. I would tend to support the deletion (and transferring the information elsewhere if necessary). It seems to me that this material is wandering way way off the topic.

The first one reads......

• One of his aunts, Hanna Sheehy-Skeffington, lost her husband Francis Sheehy-Skeffington, a pacifist caught up in the violence of the Easter Rising, when he was killed on the orders of a psychotic British army officer, Colonel Bowen-Colthurst (who was looking for "Fenians"). Bowen-Colthurst was sent temporarily to a Canadian hospital after being adjudged insane in the aftermath of the Rising, but he was released with a pension to settle in Canada.

So we're essentially reporting the retirement fate of someone who ordered the killing of the husband of an aunt of CCO'B!!

The second item reads........

• McBride was the son of John McBride, a Boer supporter who was executed in 1916 for his somewhat nominal involvement in the Easter Rising, and of Maud Gonne, a nationalist, who had been a love interest of William Butler Yeats and who eventually converted to Roman Catholicism.

In this case, we're discussing a former love interest of the mother of one of CCO'B's bosses!

Neither of these pieces offers any explanation as to how this activity influenced the behavior of CCO'B or his thinking. I'm sure that all this material is verifiable, but wouldn't it be better placed in the entries for those various individuals.

Thoughts, anyone? JXM 18:05, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Transferred B-C info to Hanna S-S page. Deleted info on Maud Gonne - it's already under her entry. JXM 21:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headings

Added headings - choose better ones if you like. Also added a bit about two books.--80.4.252.114 22:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Getting mauled

Does anyone have his quote about the Irish condition, and "usually getting mauled by it"?--shtove 19:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cruise

If his mother was a Sheehy and his father an O Brien, I must ask the obvious question: where did the Cruise come from? 193.1.172.163 20:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dodgy usage?

I know what the following means, but it doesn't seem well expressed:

"He coined the acronym GUBU on foot of a statement by Charles Haughey." qp10qp 18:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Remember be bold (not a license for vandalism but a license to improve)! Djegan 18:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)