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[edit] Help

Hi Computerjoe. This user was making personal attacks on me & another user. So I added NPA warnings on his page. So he adds this to my page. Now I'm really am confused about what to do. Can you help me? Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 11:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If the user continues, after a fourth level warning, contact a sysop (I'm not one). Computerjoe's talk 13:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for the welcome

Just drop me a line if there's anything I can do to help.--The ikiroid (talk parler hablar paroli 说 話し parlar) 13:54, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice

Thanks for the welcome and for founding the organization! _-M ^o P-_ 15:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Comment

I'm not a noob, as illustrated by my talk page and the large number of comments I have left on talk pages. I would appreciate it if you didn't treat my like one, and realize that everyone once in awhile a human forgets to do something. --Hetar 17:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

It was a joke... Computerjoe's talk 17:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP user

I am going to go ahead and approve FayssalF, who added him/her self to the approved list. I assume (s)he just thought admins could add themselves. Prodego ^talk 18:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Elections

What the hell is going on with the elections! They've changed the electoral rules after the elections's started! I mean it is crazy! Take a look at zappa.jakes's talk page and you'll see that he and Darth Vader changed the rules after the election had started. This is ridiculous. I mean what is the official position!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wisden17 (talk • contribs).

[edit] RfC Woggly / Harassment / Request Unblock

I am seeking a RfC from User:Woggly but have been told that it has not been filed. Could you kindly assist me in filing this RfC and defending me / being free of her and her friends' open, destructive harassment which now includes my first block! As a professional international journalist of 25 years I have never been censored in any forum (except for Syria and Iran), till now :< Thank you. IsraelBeach 21:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Israelbeach has been unfairly blocked. Whatever help you can provide in unblocking him and contributing to the RfC re problem user User:Woggly would be greatly appreciated by all Davidstone 07:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Try WP:AN. Computerjoe's talk 15:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Did you view the personal attacks, the unending name calling made by Woggly against Israelbeach before you certified her RfC on Israelbeach? Bonnieisrael 15:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

After further review, I've removed my certification. Computerjoe's talk 15:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Elections doomed

I am doomed. I don't have a single vote so I might as well drop out of the Community Justice elections. General_Eisenhower (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves)

Voting lasts until 23:59 (UTC) on April 30th. You still might have a chance. DarthVader 01:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm doomed as well. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 22:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe its a sign that you need to reconfigure the organisation... Ansell 00:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I was never the political type anyway. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 06:34, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Election Question

I am really confused the reason why I voted for a Councillor is I saw Pureblade had voted for a councillor b/c of zappa/whatever but what it doesn't say in the archives is if I'm going to get disciplinary action for what I did. I wanna know if you think I should. Sorry for the trouble I caused Mahogany-wanna chat?

No, no action will be taken - I will make sure of that. Wisden17 is being harsh. Computerjoe's talk

Thanks Mahogany-wanna chat?

I hardly think I was being harsh when I made my initial comments. I did not realise that there was the confusing statement on the actual voting page. Even so I think that all people voting should have noticed the mistake and informed zappa.jake. I don't think that any disciplinary action should be taken against those who voted, but would certainly not support zappa.jake or DarthVader if they wanted to act as election officials again. Both should have known the electoral rules, and both clearly seemed to be at a loss. --Wisden17 17:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I must agree with you Wisden17 they should've not changed the rules in voting and it might be better not to choose them as voting officials again Mahogany-wanna chat?

I agree. Computerjoe's talk 17:37, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just another RFA thank you note

Dear CJoe, I appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ну? 03:14, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal attacks?

Per the comment you left on my talk page, which came out of left field for me, please provide me with details on what you're possibly referring to that would constitute a personal attack or a disruptive comment on my part, so that I can evaluate and adjust my behavior as appropriate. -- PKtm 19:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

This edit Computerjoe's talk 19:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

On your response: that edit is not a personal attack. It was a bona fide and politely phrased warning to a user who persists (see his history) in blanking his user talk page and removing warnings that have been left there in good faith by multiple users. The user responded immediately by (appropriately) restoring the deleted content, so it's a non-issue. I must say I am greatly puzzled as to why you're getting involved, especially at this point and without there being a dispute. Please refer to WP:VAND, particularly the part on talk page vandalism. -- PKtm 19:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

The way you said it was very rude. The vandal was at the time following Wikipedia policy, and I and another user assisted him archiving his warnings. He has not removed or received warnings since. WP:VAND says warnings may be removed, if I'm not mistaken, in archiving. Computerjoe's talk 19:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, but with all due respect, I have to reject it. I was not rude, and in fact I make every due effort to never be rude on Wikipedia. The person archived his warnings, then a week later deleted the reference to the archive. Please reread WP:VAND, where it says (my bolding added): "The above does not apply to the user's own Talk page, where users generally are permitted to remove and archive comments at their discretion, except in cases of warnings, which they are generally prohibited from removing, especially where the intention of the removal is to mislead other editors.

Again, I'm still very puzzled as to why you're pursuing this, when there is already resolution and there is no dispute. The user, in fact, left me a friendly note (albeit unsigned) in response to my comment. -- PKtm 19:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

When the warnings he removed were given, WP:VAND contradicted itself. However, he shouldn't have removed the reference. IMO, your response was uncivil, but if both parties don't really care that's fine. You have the right to remove this warning, as it is informal. Computerjoe's talk 19:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, but I will probably leave your "warning" (and the subsequent rational discussion) in place, and let whomever might read it decide whether it was appropriate. Obviously, I myself consider your warning to be very misplaced, as well as out of the blue. I would gently (and civilly) point out to you that there are so many pages/debates in Wikipedia where we should actively police civility; I think we should all focus on clearcut examples and patterns, not jump into the fray in the case of a single (at best very mild) instance. -- PKtm 22:26, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor Review related question

..however, I'm posting it here for a reason.

In regards to Megaman_Zero's editor review section, is there anything that can be done about his constant renaming of himself on the page to User:Zero ?

I'm pretty sure User:Zero doesn't exist, and if he wants to be User:Zero, he can go through the motions to have his account renamed. I revert it whenever I see it, as I feel he's deliberately confusing people. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 22:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Computerjoe's talk 07:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for voting at my RFA. Even though you did not vote for me, your counsel was appreciated. In the next few months, I intend to work on expanding my involvement in other namespaces and try a few different subjects than in the past. - CTSWynekenTalk

[edit] Thanks for voting on my RfA

Thanks so much for voting! Thanks so much for voting on my request for adminship. I have decided to withdraw my nomination as it seems that consensus will not be reached. If you voted in support, thanks for putting your trust in me to be a good admin. If you voted in opposition, thank you as well for your criticism as it will only help me be a better Wikipedian and perhaps help if/when I apply for adminship again sometime in the future.

--Mets501^{talk • contribs} 01:48, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Community Justice

I was wondering about these edits User:Ethnopunk made on my talk page; I'm not exactly sure what the user is talking about, but it sounds like something serious. _-M ^o P-_ 15:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism revert

Please look at the individuals other comments in the last hour and the IP. The IP is a repeat vandal from a highschool (and has in the last few minutes claimed to be the principal and to be a teacher there) and has been giving deliberately nonsensical comments on AfDs and elswhere. The reversion was justified(since you disagreed, I won't revert again without your permission) JoshuaZ 16:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huntcliff

Hi - can I add my commentary to the discussion section of the entry? Thanks. Magic Pickle 17:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

But the discussion bit is for opinion, surely? thanks. Magic Pickle

[edit] rfa

Thanks for the support on my RFA. Unfortunately, it did not achieve consensus. I look forward to your support in a couple months when I apply again. Holler at me if you need anything. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 19:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Heh, for the record, Tawker nominated me the night of my birthday too (the 22nd) ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 19:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Hi - I appreciate your compliment. Also: Editor's review is a great initiative. I hope it becomes permanent soon. Rama's Arrow 21:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for posting things on my survey. General Eisenhower 22:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zelda GA

Dear Joe, thank you for reviewing the Princess Zelda article. I was wondering if you perhaps expand on your notes... what you left doesn't seem enough to warrant a failure. I could understand you failing because an overall lack of references, or make a very strong reccommendation to add some, but I would prefer slightly more notes than "you need more sources in one paragraph". And also, if you review an article, please remove it from the nomination page. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 18:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Done see Talk:Princess Zelda. Computerjoe's talk 19:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've fixed the U (hehe.. I've re-arranged Natalya's user page about four times when she is away) and I've started adding refs. As you might have noticed, I've only been cleaning the article up, since I like Nintendo characters. Cheers, Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 19:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Talk page :P Computerjoe's talk 19:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sig

Is it that bad? :'( Ok, I'll take it down a bit. _-M _o P-_ 19:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

You sir, are evil. :P Just kidding. _-M o P-_ 19:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh. But what does code length have to do with anything? _-M o P-_ 20:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh... I see... ok, I'll do my best to make it smaller :S _-M o P-_ 20:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

There, I tried to reduce it as much as I could while keeping what I like. And thanks for the barnstar! ^_^ _-M o P-_ 20:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:You're Leaving?

Cripes, I leave as soon as I almost get the barnstar I have been working for this whole time. :-( Oh well. I might come back in the future, but not anytime soon. Moe ε 20:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Informing users who don't qualify for VP

Hi there. I was wondering if you inform a user if their app was unsuccessful usually? Just noticed that no one's told the last unsuccessful applicant. I made a template which I placed as a custom button but can be manually inserted if it helps, it's: {{subst:DeclineVP|reason}}. - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 03:32, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! There's no built in option in VP, you see. Computerjoe's talk 07:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Decline template

If you open the CustomButtons.txt and change the talk 1 code to the below it will do it automatically. as follows:

<TALK 1>
{{DeclineVP}}
{{subst:DeclineVP|%P}}
Notify user that his/her request to use VP was not granted

Hope that helps! :) - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 07:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irony (was: Hypocrite)

I find it interesting that you describe yourself as a member of "Community Justice - Working to promote civility in Wikipedia", and yet you are incivil and are unwillling to assume good faith on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of PS2 DVD9 Games. Regards, Alphax ^τεχ 08:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Is listcruft really a civil term to use? Does it show that you have put effort into thinking about the proposal? Ansell 09:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

IMO, listcruft is a perfectly civil term to use, while hypocrite may not be. Listcruft is a term I, any many other AFDers use. The term cruft is also used in such things as fancruft. Computerjoe's talk 14:58, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Just because other AfDers use it, doesn't make it right. Saying something is *cruft is a way of disparaging something without saying why. AfD is not pleasant for newbie wikipedians. Pcb21 Pete 15:15, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I've raised the point on the Wikipedia EN mailing list that I didn't even know it could be seen as uncivil. I too realise how AfD is an unpleasant place to be -having one of my first contributions send to VfD (and had a lot of uncivil remarks) look here. Computerjoe's talk 15:18, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you feel that it's "civil" to dismiss people's comments with remarks such as "Only 91 edits. This is first to this namespace"[1]? I really don't see how you can be declaring yourself the leader of a group trying to promote civility when you don't seem to realise what it is yourself. Regards, Alphax ^τεχ 15:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

It is general AfD procedure to say if a user with a low edit count makes a 'vote'. It, once again IMO, is not uncivil. You are entitled to an opinion. As am I. Computerjoe's talk 15:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

As is stated before. Lets not assume that current AfD practice is completely civil. It is possibly one of the places that the group should endeavour to cleanup, not accept it as a standard as is. Ansell 22:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I replied on the mailing list. Pcb21 Pete 15:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw. Computerjoe's talk 15:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for calling you a hypocrite. Just be careful using terminology that you think you know the meaning of, but haven't actually checked up on - assumption is the mother of all stuff-ups. Regards, Alphax ^τεχ 09:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Alphax. I've learned my lesson :D Computerjoe's talk 14:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Beat

What could I've done better to get one of the Councillor chair's on Wikipedia: Community Justice Mahogany

I could ask the same thing but I'm by no means political. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 22:02, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

What would you both have done as councillors that you are inhibited from doing as non-councillors? Ansell 22:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Just get listened to better and get people to listen to me Mahogany

[edit] VandalProof app declined

I noticed that my application for VandalProof was declined. However, you said "The reason for this is that Amazon10x." You never gave a reason for defining the application; was this an error? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amazon10x (talk • contribs).

Yep. Computerjoe's talk 15:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for your note on declining my application. Not to worry. I'll keep plugging and try again later. Best regards Nelson50 21:17, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help Me

Is there anyway to see a list pages I've created? I can't see it in logs. Computerjoe's talk 18:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Interiot has a tool that can produce lists of created articles. I think it only works for articles created before the server change on April 12, though. You should ask him to run a query for you. --TantalumTelluride^♪ 19:26, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, here's an example of a report Interiot recently produced for Jossi: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/reports/output/articles_created_Jossi.html --TantalumTelluride^♪ 19:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

Hey, thanks for voting for me in the CJ elections. --Osbus 21:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A landslide victory for The JPS (aka RFA thanks)

Hey, Computerjoe/Archive 4, thank you so much for your vote and comments in my RfA, which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight. If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever... Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me... The JPS talk to me 21:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long signatures

I saw that you had commented on another user's talk page about their long signature. I thought I was the only one annoyed by those, but it turns out I'm not. :) I find them so annoying when I'm trying to add a comment to a talk page, but have to read through 3 lines of code just to find where a person's signature ends. Sue Anne 23:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Meeting 2

Can I vote in the agenda section. I am not a councillor, yet I think as Chief Executive I should be allowed. Thanks! Ian13/talk 17:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep. I've clarified this. Computerjoe's talk 17:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Another question: can I add my opinions yet? Ian13/talk 17:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Computerjoe's talk 17:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why I'm not a WP:CJ member

Hi Computerjoe. Thanks for the invite, but to be honest there is a method to my madness of not joining WP:CJ even as I contribute to the talk page. Although I think civility is extremely important, I am not a fan of CJ's methods for promoting it, which seem to me to tend toward form (e.g. titles, votes, banners, etc.) rather than function. That doesn't mean I think you won't accomplish anything, and I've long since learned that telling people to give up on what they're doing because you don't like their approach is a recipe for futility—and, well, incivilicty—on Wikipedia. I figure live and let live, since we're all working for free and all.

So why do I watch your talk pages and make contributions? It's because occasionally CJ seems to be leaning towards doing something that will cause problems somewhere, and at that point "live and let live" isn't such a good idea, so I make suggestions to help avoid those problems. -- SCZenz 07:01, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your suggestion at WT:CJ Computerjoe's talk 07:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- SCZenz 18:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Uncivilty by CJ members...

I think banning Ethopunk/whatever is way to harsh, so would you propose my idea of a probation for each of the members. It would work like this, 1 or 2 members are chosen to watch all comments made by that member and remind them daily what it means to be civil. Then if the refuse the probation idea they will be temporary blocked from CJ a continuing uncivilty they are permablocked from CJ. (We must not be hypocrytic of CJ!!!) Mahogany ( I should have prepared my RFA much better but oh well if I'm not elected this time there is always next year!!)

I have also took out my input on why I wasn't reelected for CJ councillor Mahogany

[edit] CJ Voting

Rules should be getting ready to be made. These rules must be permanent!!! I would say the best thing to do is to have official procedures for promblems like ties in voting like the councillors test out their new privelages. (I'm not complaining b/c I lost I'm just saying there should be an official handbook for worst case scenarios. Mahogany

[edit] Userpage

Sure, I'll help you if you like. :D MoppEr ^Speak! 21:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof

Hi there! I see you've [2] my application, but I can't still log on with the program. Given I didn't receive any formal message that I've been approved, perhaps I'm been a little too anxious. :o) Any change you forgot to activate something? Sorry to bother you, I'm probably in your waiting list. Thanks, Mariano(t/c) 08:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Nope. It should be working. Make sure you have set the right username and are logged in using that name. Computerjoe's talk 15:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Working now. I must have mistyped something. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marianocecowski (talk • contribs).

[edit] IRC Channel

I would join the talk but one problem IRC channels tend to screw my computer up. Mahogany

Try using Chatzilla Computerjoe's talk 17:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll try Mahogany

[edit] My Signature

Some wikipedians have requested that I change my sig because it's too long. please vote on whether I should change my sig or not. Thanks, --GeorgeMoney^{Talk  Contribs} 03:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Hello, Computerjoe/Archive 4, and thank you for vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 62/2/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. As I acclimate myself to my new tools, feel free to let me know how you believe I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! RadioKirk talk to me 05:27, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cent

Hello, I see you've recently edited {{cent}}. This is quite all right and I encourage you to help keep it current. But please don't forget to log your changes at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Template log. This will help us stay all on the same page -- no pun intended. Also, new discussions to the top, please. Thank you. John Reid 13:59, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, sure it's the top? Computerjoe's talk 14:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Pretty sure; see the comment at the very beginning: [3]. Need any help, just ask. John Reid 14:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought you meant the top of the log-page. Okay, TY. Computerjoe's talk 14:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

[edit] My Signature

Dear Computerjoe, I have changed my sig to make it only 3 lines. Can you change your vote at Wikipedia:Signature Poll/GeorgeMoney to oppose?

Below is a box that shows how my poll is doing:

.

Thanks, --GeorgeMoney^{Talk Contribs} 02:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Template: Tracker

You cannot ask an admin. to undelete, you have to ask a developer I'm pretty sure. Mahogany

Sorry should've checked that before stating anything Mahogany

[edit] Thanks

Thank you, but I'm beyond help. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 16:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Template:Tracker

The template was blank and empty, and had been for it's entire existance. If you want to create an actual template, and use it, very well, but note that it probably will be nominated for deletion, because it's rather useless. Thank you.--Sean Black ^(talk) 21:05, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foundry model

Do you see more that needs to be done to Foundry model? It has an unsourced tag and some of the material near the bottom is a little technical. RJFJR 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

It needs sources and to be a little more de-techilised. Computerjoe's talk 06:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Why does this exist?

So you put a message on Sir Frcis Drake's Help Desk. This page is for stuff like sigs, tools, and other stuff.

General Eisenhower (talk of my war years) (talk here) (Help ME Improve) (war or Magic) (History here) HI (Espanol) (Military (Victory in World War II) (Rayven) (Need Help?) 00:33, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cabal assistance

Hi Computerjoe. I saw that you were a cabalist "trainee" with the Mediation Cabal and I was wondering if you could help me out. Ardenn filed a complaint against myself and others, but it went nowhere, and Ardenn and I mutually agreed to close the case. I have no idea what the policy is for this, so any assistance you could offer would be appreciated. Thanks! ~MDD4696 04:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Dealt. Computerjoe's talk 07:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for voting on my RfA

Thanks so much for voting! Thanks so much for voting on my request for adminship. I have decided to withdraw my nomination as it seems that consensus will not be reached. If you voted in support, thanks for putting your trust in me to be a good admin. If you voted in opposition, thank you as well for your constructive criticism as it will only help me be a better Wikipedian and perhaps help if/when I apply for adminship again sometime in the future.

Mahogany

[edit] Deny recognition poll

(Note that this is a form notification.)

Hello Computerjoe. Since you commented on the Deny recognition proposal, this is to notify you that a formal poll has been opened concerning it. If it is accepted, it will be be used as a launching pad to amend other policies such as the deletion policy; that page itself will be marked as historical, not policy. Feel free to reread the proposal and place your vote. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 07:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

A well-deserved barnstar for initiating Community Justice.

[edit] Thanks...

...for the initiative in creating Community Justice. I just realized that you've received little thanks for your effort, which is at least worthy of a barnstar. Thanks for trying to make Wikipedia a more civil place. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa!-E@ 07:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

TY, I'll display it proudly. Computerjoe's talk 15:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VP mod needed

Hi, I am Eagle talk, I am a fellow moderator on VP. Currently the program is not recognizing my user name as a moderator. As such the program does not always recognize some of the changes I make to the VP official welcom page. (you know what I am talking about). This problem has been documented on User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs#Moderator update is not working. I request a "Null" edit to that page, The reason is a user I added is having problems logging in.

To do a "Null" edit, just make a minute change to the page and save. Then it will accept all previous changes made to it. (which are my additions) ThanksEagle talk 20:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. this message is going out to all moderators on at this time of day.

[edit] Your vote on my RFA

Thank you for voting on my RFA, however I've decided to withdraw my nomination. I'll perhaps nominate myself in the future once I have more experience, and not to immaturely release RFAs. Until then, I'll continue working on Wikipedia. —THIS IS MESSEDOCKER (TALK) 21:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Hi Computerjoe/Archive 4,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 00:52, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ Timeline

Nice work. I'm very impressed at your wikisyntax skills. (^'-')^ Covington 02:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Not mine, Misza's nice work! Computerjoe's talk 15:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My signature

Sorry about that. How's this? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 22:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Still hogging up a bit of space, but not as much. Computerjoe's talk 09:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJ IRC channel

Computerjoe, the link only has one '#'. I fixed the link on the main page, and I strongly suspect you have delivered the wrong link to everyone with the newsletter. Next time you need to pass it forward, remember not to include the first '#'. Fetofs ^Hello! 20:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Two ##s. Computerjoe's talk 20:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind. I got it. Fetofs ^Hello! 20:15, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] super thanks

Hi Computerjoe - I'm very sorry to have disappointed your expectation in me, but it had become impossible for me to compromise my principles. I don't covet adminship at all, so it wasn't a difficult decision - I simply cannot accept misrepresentation and nonsense. However, I cannot tell you how greatly joyous I feel at the enthusiastic, wonderful support you expressed for me. I don't know how hard it will be to understand that your supports means extremely a lot to me. I thank you from my heart, and please let me know if I can ever be assistance or help in anything. Rama's Arrow 21:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks a lot!

Asterion ^{talk to me} has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

Thanks for the newsletter and the welcome note. Have a nice day! --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CJBot

Even though I'm not in CJ, I touched up the CJ newsletter that CJBot sent (to every talk page it sent the newsletter to), as it had several typos and formatting errors.

A diff of my changes can be seen here. — nathanrdotcom ^{(Got something to say? Say it.)} 01:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. The first 10 or so newsletters were sent with errors; but Misza corrected it before the rest went out. Computerjoe's talk 09:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

There was a lot more than ten. I had to change 90% of them (check my contribs- no not the contribs for the IP I'm posting under :p). — Nathan ^(talk) 17:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miss BC Coast

I removed the PROD tag for this. I felt that it was unfair to treat this competition, different from competitions of an equal level in the US (where we have at least one, for every state). Also "GHits" are not related to notability, particular for something that is not an online contest. This article is really a subarticle to the larger pageant system (just as in the US cases). It would be like deleting a single team in a professional league in sports. --Rob 15:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, surely it could be merged into Miss World Canada? Computerjoe's talk 16:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correction

I did not "make" another user join. He wanted to join but didn't know how as you will find out if you ask him. Please desist from jumping to conclusions thank-you. After all "Suspicions which may be unjust need not be stated" — Abraham Lincoln. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cicero Dog (talk • contribs).

I apologise for this, however, if a user whiches to join it's a good idea for sie to do that under his/her username. Computerjoe's talk 16:56, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

That is all very well sir, however, is the basis of community justice not to help people in need? And he was getting in somewhat of a pickle thus i assisted him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.109.205.196 (talk • contribs).

No, we do not help those in need. However, he should've joined under his/her own username - or provided an explanation in the edit summary. 17:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)~

[edit] Thank you

[edit] Category:Aspergian Wikipedians

Category:Aspergian Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. The is also a proposal to create an association to meet the needs of users with mental health conditions. --Salix alba (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

[edit] AGAINST

Why did you have to put up the QRVS up for deletion? I'll take the case to Condem, then Sango123, Angela, and maybe even Jimbo Wales. It is in my user space. General Eisenhower • (at war or at peace) 20:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Because I thought it inappropiate. Anything, in any namespace, can be deleted. Computerjoe's talk 20:53, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oak Hill Elementary

You closed the AfD on this saying the result of the debate was "keep". I believe the proper summary would be "no consensus" since there were a nontrivial number of delete votes (unless you'd like to give reasoning for overriding them). Thanks. Fagstein 00:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Many of the keeps were simple nns. IMO, a well reasoned keep is better than a NN. Also, I'm using precedents for other similar cases. Computerjoe's talk 07:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] LOL

Don't you love misusing {{helpme}}? :P Computerjoe's talk 14:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Honestly? No! :-P --Bertolotti 14:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Computerjoe, you used the {{helpme}} template. How may we help you? When you've asked the question, put the template back so we know to check back. Cheers, Tangotango 14:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC) LOL! - Note to suspicious folk: This is only a test of the {{helpme}} template for the Bootcamp. This is not an abuse of editing privileges by Computerjoe, and should not be treated as such. Thank you.

[edit] RfA thanks

Computerjoe/Archive 4, thank you you so much for validating my RfA! I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken both the positive and constructive on board. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please let me know, ditto if you see me stumble! Thanks again for your much appreciated support. Deizio talk 18:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you, Joe!!

Thank you! Hey there, Computerjoe — Thank you so much for your support on my recent Nomination for Adminship. It succeeded with a final tally of 85/11/6 and I am now an administrator. Let me know how I can help you. Bastique▼parlervoir 22:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Created Moderator User box and Category

This user is a VandalProof Moderator

To add yourself to this category, add {{VandalProof Moderators}} for the user box above, or [[Category:Wikipedians that are VandalProof Moderators|{{PAGENAME}}]] to your user page. Thanks! - Glen ^T_C (Stollery) 23:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Co-nom of Joturner

What do you mean by "co-nominating" that is not expressed by a "strong support, would have nominated him myself"? I personally think co-nominations should at least expand the nomination statement by adding other good sides of the candidate; those without a statement I find rather useless. I almost commented on that at the RfA page itself, but since it is not Joturner's fault I decided against it. I am not sure whether you really do an editor a favor by such a co-nomination. Kusma (討論) 02:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Osama bin laden

A bunch of vandals stomped on the article and popup reverts failed a few times to fix the problems. As a result, it was too difficult to sort out so I reverted to your most recent version and am working on grammar issues at this time.

Thanks your your efforts! -- That Guy, From That Show! 16:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Computerjoe's talk 17:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cicero Dog

Why can i not return to community justice having learned my lesson? Cicero Dog 17:58, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to reapply on WT:CJ. You'll need council consensus. Computerjoe's talk 18:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I am perplexed by this. Surely my attempts to reform would be better accepted with open arms rather than shunning me. If i am to succesfully reform would community justice not be an ideal place for me to begin? Cicero Dog 18:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

As said, WT:CJ. Computerjoe's talk 18:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Thank You!

Thanks Computerjoe,

I am honored by your support in my recent successful request for adminship. As an administrator, I am your servant, ready to help however I can. (In your case, since you've had the tools longer than I, my best use might be menial labor!) My talk page is always open; should you need anything, or should you see me making a mistake -- probably a common occurrence -- please do let me know. I will depend on the good sense of the community to keep me from making a complete fool of myself! :) In gratitude, Xoloz 18:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just a note...

In this edit summary you stated that "Any further joins by [Cicero Dog] will be classed as VANDALISM." I'm afraid that you are not entitled to do that. Such actions might be considered incivil and disruptive, but they are not vandalism. Please reread the definition of vandalism on Wikipedia and try to be less hot-tempered and incivil in edit summaries in the future. Kelly Martin (talk) 18:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL, kinda ironic it was a group about civility. I apologise over the claim regarding vandalism. Have a nice day. Computerjoe's talk 18:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apology

I would like to apologise for my behaviour of late and assure you it will not happen again. Cicero Dog 18:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Accepted. Thanks. Computerjoe's talk 18:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC

thanks so much for the barnstar i'm quite touched by it thank you so very much! Cicero Dog 20:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poem?

just to point something out i've found a page about a Dylan Thomas poem only thing is i don't think it is a Dylan Thomas poem....just thought you'd know what to do. The poem is called Dylan Thomas' Changing World thanks. Cicero Dog 21:07, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I've seen this is fairly common. You could move it to Wikisource. Computerjoe's talk 21:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

ok thanks i'll do it tomorrow i'm going to call it a night bye Cicero Dog 21:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:REDUCE

I made up a wikipedia essay based on what I see as people creating confusion by not following policy. It is an attempt to deal with my current activities and enable more editors to focus on WP:BACKLOG as you stated on my editor review. Ansell Review my progress! 00:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archive box

Thanks for fixing the box for me! It looks like you just have to put the template up there and once it adds the right text, you can go and edit the dates. I was thinking that there was just some trick that I wasn't figuring out. Thanks again! Amalas =^_^= 15:47, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Image

[[Image:Wikipedia-Flag.png|100px|thumb|left|The United States and UN have flags and does Wikipedia.]] (Image was deleted on Commons. --ALE! 10:23, 17 July 2006 (UTC))

I created this image using the Wikipedia Logo. Is that allowed? Eisenhower (at war or at peace) (Project) (UTC) 17:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

No. The Wikipedia logo is copyright, all rights reserved. Computerjoe's talk 17:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yay!

So, am I allowed to download the program? Yanksox 18:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for responding. Yanksox 18:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sukh's RFA - Thanks!

Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VandalProof 1.2 Now Available

After a lenghty, but much-needed Wikibreak, I'm happy to announce that version 1.2 of VandalProof is now available for download! Beyond fixing some of the most obnoxious bugs, like the persistent crash on start-up that many have experienced, version 1.2 also offers a wide variety of new features, including a stub-sorter, a global user whitelist and blacklist, navigational controls, and greater customization. You can find a full list of the new features here. While I believe this release to be a significant improvement over the last, it's nonetheless nowhere near the end of the line for VandalProof. Thanks to Rob Church, I now have an account on test.wikipedia.org with SysOp rights and have already been hard at work incorporating administrative tools into VandalProof, which I plan to make available in the near future. An example of one such SysOp tool that I'm working on incorporating is my simple history merge tool, which simplifies the process of performing history merges from one article into another. Anyway, if you haven't already, I'd encourage you to download and install version 1.2 and take it out for a test-drive. As always, your suggestions for improvement are always appreciated, and I hope that you will find this new version useful. Happy editing! --AmiDaniel (talk) 02:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Yeh, that's totally fine. Nice sunday to you too. --Osbus 16:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ATTENTION MODERATORS

DO NOT ADD ANY NEW USERS Eagle talk

• For somereason the add user function is adding duplicate copies of EVERY name on the list. (currently I am undoing the damage... so give me time) if there is ANY other problems please contact me immediatly!!
• Give me time to at least fix the damage that has already been caused, Then I will respond to any messages that you guys have Thanks

--Eagle talk 19:45, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NAME CHANGE

I know you are busy Joe but this name change issue is getting out of hand we need a dicision form you! and we need it quickly before we waste any more time Cicero Dog 20:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

No consensus. Computerjoe's talk 20:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

9 - 5 on the poll for a change Cicero Dog 20:47, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philosopher kings bassist

Hey man,

My name's Marc Rogers, and I'm the new bassist for the Philosopher Kings. I keep trying to add my name to the band's entry and it looks like you keep removing it. I also got your user talk page saying "You're not in the band. Stop pretending you're in the band." Well guess what, I AM IN THE DAMN BAND! If I was going to insert myself into a band that I'm not really in, it would be Coldplay (or possibly Arcade Fire). Here's a link to a London Free Press article that actually mentions me:

http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=123010&x=articles&s=club

Here's a (poorly written) article from the University of British Columbia's Ubyssey:

http://www.ubyssey.bc.ca/20060310/article.shtml?%3C!--2--%3ECulture/05b.html

That's the first two I've found that actually mention me by name. I'd be happy to send you a scan of a recent Canadian Musician article or even a scan of the album interior artwork.

I'm going to go add my name again to the page...for the love of God please leave it alone.  :) 72.136.196.62 23:51, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Are ther any guidelines or indeed policies on the kind of wiki project pages one can set up. I am interested in founding one (a harmless one this time) Cicero Dog 14:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:WikiProject best practices. Computerjoe's talk 15:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

thanks Cicero Dog 16:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disruption on CJ talk page...

Sorry you got the wrong guy, I just wrote under the disruption "sounds good". Mahogany

Accept my apologies. Computerjoe's talk 15:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Your turn! :D Master of Puppets ^{That's hot.} 20:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I replied. :\ Oh well, I'll talk to you in a bit when I finish this page. Master of Puppets ^{That's hot.} 20:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Master of Puppets ^{That's hot.} 20:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem! Hope it goes well! Master of Puppets ^{That's hot.} 21:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I give you my support again. You have 28 positive votes over 11 negative votes so far. Mostly Rainy 04:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

• I'll have a look again later. - Mailer Diablo 16:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I cannot provide an exception based on your Community Justice due to its contraversy, but I will give credit to your recent-changes patrolling duties. In any case, I've changed my vote, and all the best to your RfA. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with WP:VIP?

Interesting, as it's currently only a re-direct. If you mean WP:RFI could you please elaborate on how you would help there? As per the note on my talk page I don't have a great deal of time for WP right now, so I'll try and look at your RFA more closely later into its week. Petros471 21:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. I'm old school. VIP used to be a really lengthy backlog. I would spend time on RFI seeing if there's anything I can assist with. Computerjoe's talk 21:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Right, you've got one more support. As you said (and I would have done anyway) I've assessed you, not CJ. Just please help out at RFI if you do get promoted (heck, help out even if you don't- I did quite a lot there before I became an admin). Petros471 19:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal proof request

Thanks for letting me know I don't have enough edits for vandal proof. That is ok. I won't need it as I restrict activeX on my machine which is a component of it.--John Lakonias 05:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] better?

ILovePlankton ^{(T—C—U—L)} 19:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

ILovePlankton ^{( U—L)} 19:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 19:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox deleted

I've deleted {{User Community Justice Chairman}} since the position is no longer existing. — Nathan ^(talk) 03:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EWS23's RfA

Hello Joe! Thank you very much for your support at my request for adminship. I see you around the project and IRC frequently, and I look forward to perhaps working with you more in the future. Thanks again, and if you ever see anything I could be doing better, please leave me a message. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 03:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Klingon Wikipedia

The Klingon Wikipedia was locked based on a Foundation-level discussion which is unlikely to be revisited. It was never especially active having only ever amassed around 2000 edits to 62 articles during its 14 month run [4], and was locked at User:Jimbo Wales request [5] after lengthy but inconclusive discussion. (e.g. m:Artificial_languages_equal_rights). While Jimbo has never publicly stated his exact rationale for closing the wiki, it was done against a backdrop of many divisive discussions regarding conlangs (of which only Ido and Esperanto have Wikipedias now, and each of these has large numbers of speakers). It also was done at a time when the project was maturing from a geeky experiment to a genuine and effective effort to bring knowledge to the world. The Klingon wikipedia was limited by the lack of any community of speakers and a closed, incomplete vocabulary. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 22:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CorbinSimpson's Request for Adminship

Thanks for voting in my request for administrator rights, even though it failed (13/30/4). Sadly, work has forced me to respond to you all using a substituted message rather than a personalized response. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that administrators, to me, should be chosen and approved by the community, and I will continue working to become a better editor and Wikipedian. No matter what the alignment of your vote was, I will take your comments seriously and use them to improve myself. If you wish to discuss your comments personally with me, I would be more than glad to talk about things since the RfA is now over; just leave your concern on my talk page and we will sort things out. Thanks again for voting, and happy editing! - Corbin ^{Be excellent}

[edit] Community Justice

I've recently made a large proposal and comment over Community Justice, and I would appreciate it if you would comment. After all, you are the founder and certaintly the largest contributer to the Community Justice project.

By the way, shouldn't you archive your talk page, its getting very long.--☆TBC☆ 00:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)