User talk:Compuguy1088

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Contents 1 A welcome from Sputnik 2 Category 3 Your blog 4 Notes 5 Self Promotion 6 A Techie 7 Same Here 8 License tagging for Image:Compuguy portrait.jpg 9 Some sources for Milton Preves, courtesy of WikiProject Musicians

[edit] A welcome from Sputnik

- СПУТНИК^{ССС Р} 03:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category

Hi Compuguy1088, About categorizing your Lake Braddock Orchestras article as an 'American orchestra' -- literally you are right, but practically, it doesn't work. That list I believe is for orchestras of a notably high caliber. Meaning, professional, semi-professional, or top of the line student orchestras^[1] ...No offence to your school and orchestra, but I doubt that Lake Braddock fits that bill. However, I'm sure you disagree with this so instead I going to create a new list of student orchestras that way we can separate the professional/semi-professional orchestras from the rest and maintain at least what I feel was the original intent of the list and category. Any objections? Jarfingle 06:41, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Well in factual sense we are of unsusally high caliber, because we play music at a high level that many other regular high school groups do, and because of this I created the article and put it under that list because of that and another reason, because in the list of groups in another article the American Youth Philharmonic Orchestras is in that list. This group is a youth group just like ours, that would also not fit under your opinion, that is why I decided to put it under that category. What you define as high caliber, professional, semi-professional, does fit the description of our group. Unfourtunatly I dont have hall the information compiled about our complete history, so the article isn't complete, yet. What I've said is not opinonated, but is fact from the many awards we have won, as well as other factors. I'm not trying to counterdict your judgement, because naturally at first glance a normal group shoudn't be put under that category, but our group, as well as our band are not the normal. Actually the band conductor is world wide recognized, but that isn't relevent. In this sense if that group was filtered the same was as our group, it would be just. I understand what your saying but I was just trying to explain, and back up why its on the list. I will put it in the youth category, but I'll for the moment keep it under american orcehstras, because of the level of playing is above the norm.

Compuguy1088 17:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree :P. Fairfax County generally is above the norms in all aspects. --The Fear 22:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your blog

Hello again, After consulting with WikiProject LinkSpam, I'm going to remove your link from the Lake Braddock Orchestras article for the following reasons:

• It's self-promotion
• You don't provide a name for your blog thus making it unverifiable^[2]
• It's unencyclopedic^[3]

However, of these, that fact that it's self-promotion I think makes it a no-brainer. Just as you don't create articles about oneself (because of dubious encyclopedic credentials), one doesn't make external links to onself (on equally dubious encyclopedic credentials). Jarfingle 09:29, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

It does seem like its self promotion, which unfourtuatly it partialy is :(. This is not on purpose though. The name of the blog is the name of the link which is Inside the Lake Braddock Symphony Orchestra, and if you would please take a second to read this, it is relevent to the article at hand. Another reason is that I regulary update that blog with happenings in the group, where as our offical site is not updated as much. I will put it back on, but will specifically note that it is a blog and mention in a footnote that it possible could be an opinated source. This should releve this whole thing of spam, unfourtuately it isn't link spam, because it is relevelnt information to the article. I understand why you took this percaution, but I might of not described this properly when I put it up, leading to this suspicion. I'll properly document it this time, to make it just and mention of its relevence.

Compuguy1088 17:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notes

1. ^ we are a high caliber group, that is why I decided after seeing the American Youth Philharmonic Orchestras listed in wikipedia, that it was just to put an article about our group, being a high caliber orchestra like the latter group is

   Compuguy1088 17:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

2. ^ The name in the link is exactly the same as the blog name

   Compuguy1088 17:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

3. ^ The revelency of this link is because of the fact that the main page is not updated, I included this so there was another updated sorurce of information about present activites there incase the reader was interseted

   Compuguy1088 17:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Self Promotion

Bottom line. You link to your own blog, that is blatant self-promotion (which, as you yourself may have noticed, you have yet to address). Using your logic anyone living in say Norfolk, Nebraska who had a blog about his or her life there could add it under external links to that article. Anyone who was a cellist could add a link to the cello article as a "relevant" and "encyclopedic" external link using your logic.

It simply doesn't work.

About the name issue, what I meant is your name, not the name of the blog. However, this is an afterthought to my primary concern.

And finally by the sounds of your American Youth Philharmonic Orchestras argument, I will take that as an "ok" to my creating a separate category and list for youth orchestras...

Jarfingle 20:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, this is ludicric, and a waste of fighting each other at the necks for, I removed the link as of lastest revision Compuguy1088 23:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Techie

Yeah, I ran the lights/sound for the district festival. I was hunting around all the FCPS school pages, got a link to the LB orchestra page, and said "Hey, that looks like our theater." Upon closer looking, it was, and so I made it known. I do a lot of tech there; the county employs me (but forgets to pay me) I seem to be obsessed with finding out how places used to be: schools, camps, towns, etc. So naturally, I made some additions to the histories of various schools. But we must be correctly represented. How can I get some userboxes? KeepOnTruckin 02:17, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Same Here

Ah, well then you probibly were there where Miss.Holmes has the very "enlightening" stalling conversation involving jokes durring festival :), where the judges didn't get there scores, that was hilarious, even though I coudn't hear from my char in the Viola section...oh and it sounds like a good job, making sure that all those computers arn't falling apart. I actually started submitting here, when I noticed that a youth orchestra was under the list of symphony orchestras, so I had the idea of putting it up. oh and if your looking to get addicted, er put some userboxes up, then Wikipedia:Userboxes should give you a guide to every user box in the wikiverse, but be careful or you'll have as many userboxes as I do, there...addicting :). Compuguy1088 02:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Usually, it's just me and maybe 1 or 2 other people up in the booth. So I come in there and there are these judges there, taking up MY followspot galleries (where I usually sleep) It gets pretty hot up there, so I had a fan on, and they want me to point it at them (opposite direction) and they leave the lights in the booth on (big no-no). And they didn't get me the free food I was promised. So (my apologies) I tapped the keys on the light board a bit louder than usual.

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Now, what happened to User:Jarfingle? He seemed to be deleting valid external links and complaining about the qaulity of your orchestra. I don't see how he knows what is good; he lives in Alaska, and we in Virginia, more than 2000 miles apart KeepOnTruckin 14:23, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

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He thought that the link (which was argumentably to a site that I manage) that is about my orchestra was a self promotion link, which as a result of it was; the other thing was that I originally listed our group under List of symphony orchestras in the United States, because the American Youth Philharmonic Orchestras was listed in there as well, and he thought because it was a youth orchestra that it would be appropriate ot put it in there, because he initally thought that youth groups were mostly average and did not qualify to be put under symphony (though we do have a symphony orchestra..), thought in the end, it did work out, all the youth orchestras were moved into there own category, and the link, I just removed it. Compuguy1088 22:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

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Ah, the same thing happened to me when I put a link to Theatre Centreville's site and it kept getting removed. I don't work for them (I work for FCPS) , so I can't see it as self-promotion.

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[edit] Some sources for Milton Preves, courtesy of WikiProject Musicians

Hey there. I know how it is trying to write these things without sources, so I've decided to look up some. (I can't actually access them via the database I'm connected to, but maybe you know where to get them.)

• Woolley, Scott (1989), "Milton Preves -- a remarkable musical career", Journal of the American Viola Society 5(1): 9+, ISSN 0898-5987
  • This article was also reprinted in memoriam in vol. 16, issue 3, pg. 53-56 (2000) of the same journal.
    • Abstract: "Remembers Milton Preves, long-time Chicago Symphony principal violist who passed away on June 11, 2000. Reprints an interview with Preves, discussing the violist's career. Notes that Preves did a lot of solo work, and was a member of the Chicago Symphony String Quartet."
• August 2000, "Death of violist Milton Preves", The Strad 111: 801, ISSN 0039-2049
  • Abstract: "Remembers Milton Preves, long-time principal viola of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra (CSO), who died at age 90. States that Preves had been ill for some time. Recalls that Preves joined the CSO in 1934 and was a member of the orchestra for 52 years."
• Jacobson, Les (June 2001), "Saturdays with Milton", The Strad 112(1334): 658-633, ISSN 0039-2049
  • Abstract: "Remembers viola teacher Milton Preves, who died in June 2000. Recalls studying with the master on Saturdays starting in 1995, when Preves was in his mid-80s. States that, even without looking at him, Preves was able to hear problems with bowing, fingering, phrasing, and intonation. Comments on the rigor and thoroughness of Preves' approach. Offers a brief background of the remarkable teacher. Notes that the author studied with Preves for two years, and the violist continued teaching and conducting almost until the end of his life. Quotes Preves as saying, "never quit. Never quit. Always keep playing." Includes photographs."
• November 2000, "Notes: Remembrance [Milton Preves]", American String Teacher 50(4): 95, ISSN 0003-1313
  • Abstract: "Remembers violist Milton Preves, a member of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for 52 years, who died June 11, 2000."

–Unint 05:04, 22 January 2007 (UTC)