Talk:Computer networking

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[edit] Some comments

Should this really be the redirect point for Internetwork? are buses networks according to our description? Shouldn't this be clarified?

So, there's a picture of a network card with very short focal plane, not even showing the Chip but just the word D-Link, a company stealing GPL code into their products and not accepting to run by the license, thereby being an evil to freedom, which wikipedia is built upon, is _not a good choice of image_.

A good place to talk about this would be http://www.networkingboards.com

I changed the image to a 3Com card showing the entire card (I don't know if they steal GPL code though ;-) ) --mlewis000 06:17, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peer-to-peer

I'm adding to this. Delete if appropriate.

       Jondel|Talk

My stuff got deleted by a bro in my hood.

Peer-to-peer networking allows users to share files over a network without suffering the loss of control that may occur with other forms of networking. Peer-to-peer networks also have a higher probability of harbouring viruses and other malignant code, often diguised or placed in other files. Common peer-to-peer networks include KaZaA and Limeware, and the peer-to-peer file and printer sharing in Microsoft Windows (versions 4.x, a.k.a. Win32).

[edit] Commons link

It links to anything.--Gengiskanhg 23:27, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Layers

Shouldn´t the "switching" keyword sorted into layer 2!? NO it shouldnt


I was taught that the OSI model defines the follwing layers (in ascending order): Physical Layer, Data Link Layer, Network Layer, Transport Layer, Session Layer, Presentation Layer, Application Layer. I was surprised not to see that definition here; perhaps I am missing something? sam 02:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are a simple pair of linked computers a network?

If you have only two computers linked together, so that the pair are isolated except from each other, is that a network? It seems that our definition on this page includes that case, but I'm not sure I would have defined a network to include this case or that the common understanding of a computer network includes it. For example, consider two PCs connected with a null modem cable or a Laplink cable exclusively to transfer files. Is that a network?

Yes that is considered a network. A network does not mean its connected up with the internet or any larger WAN.

I came here from the "Protocol" disambiguation page, which defines "Protocol (computing)" as only applying to computer networks. chicken children If two PCs aren't a network, then this definition is faulty, since clearly there have been protocols designed for use between just two computers (e.g. the Laplink protocol). (I won't argue that modem file transfer protocols used on BBSes, such as Kermit, XModem, and ZModem, fit this bill, since it could be argued that a BBS is a star network, with dial-up exclusivity being the method of connection negotiation and collision avoidance at the hub. Then again, some BBSes had multiple lines.)

[edit] Computer network article

This article is more to the history of computer network. Somebody please write a few sentences of computer network's definition. Thanks for reading.

I second that. I searched for Computer Network, got redirected, then there's no definition of the term in the opening paragraph.

Now the term is there, would anyone mind me adding a bit more history? Just a bit?

Go right ahead buddy, I don't mind reading through stuff like this... It's interesting...

I wrote an article on 'Computer Network' that was previously a redirect page to computer networking. --mlewis000 20:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested sections

These really need to be included:

  • Data transmission
  • Error detection and recovery
  • Flow control
  • Network routing and congestion
  • Presentation (layer) => data representation
  • security
    • network cryptography
    • authentication/digital signatures
    • firewalss etc.
  • social issues
    • privacy
    • freedom of speech
    • intellectual property
  • network topology
  • networking hardware
  • standardisation
  • media
    • guided transmission media
    • wireles networks
    • satellites
  • quality of service
    • guaranteed packet delivery
    • time guarantees
  • application layer
    • email
    • Domain name system
    • www

TreveXtalk 01:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disagree with the merge of Network Computing with Computer networking

Network computing is a seperate, if related, beast to computer networking. The network computing article should focus on the computer, and the computer networking article should focus on networks themselves. - Ta bu shi da yu 17:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree - two different subjects. Network computing is the process of distributing computing power over a network, while "computer network" is the network over which this process is distributed. Mugaliens 20:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History (packet switching)

This article says "In 1968 Paul Baran proposed a network system consisting of datagrams or packets that could be used in a packet switching network between computer systems." however the article on paul Baran says "Similar ideas were also being independently pursued by Donald Davies from the National Physical Laboratory in the UK and Leonard Kleinrock at MIT." Similar statements about co-invention are made on the Donald Davies and Leonard Kleinrock. Is there any reason why this article shouldn't recognise the contribution made by all three? --Philbarker 12:42, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

No one gave me a reason not to, so I did. I've changed the date to be consistent with the history section of the packet switching article and with the account given in chapter 1 of Janet Abbate "Inventing the Internet" MIT Press, 2000.--Philbarker 15:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncyclopedic lists, merger of some material, new article at Computer_network...

I wrote a new article at Computer_network because the previous article at this location was a redirect to Computer_networking. I believe that the two subjects are different in that someone who is looking for information about a computer network would not necessarily be interested in the subject of computer networking (which is a more complex subject).

I am trying to clean up the unencyclopedic lists in Computer_networking, moving subject matter that is directly related to an increased understanding of what a computer network is to Computer_network. This should make room in Computer_networking for more advanced topics directly concerned with computer networking. However, I am not an expert at computer networking so will probably leave the rewrite of computer networking to someone who is more knowledgeable than myself (The topics suggested by User:TreveX might be a good starting point :-). --mlewis000 20:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Computer networking vs Computer network

I've started a conversation on User_talk:Johnpseudo regarding his claim that "article is about computer networking, not the profession of network engineering", which is at odds with other editors feeelings. Anybody wish to weigh in?