Talk:Complex Event Processing

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[edit] Products

• This section has been removed. Listing of selected companies can be seen as representing bias or endorsing more weight on a few "selected' companies. It's probably best to continue keeping sections like this out of the article in order to maintain Wikipedia's Neutral point of view Hu12 01:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point, however I think it is important to provide NPOV lists of major products in an area - it's one of the key strengths of WP. I often use WP for this purpose when researching a product. The list can be improved, but I definitely vote to keep it. Anyone else? Ronnotel 02:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

• As policy states, Wikipedia is not a repository for lists, directories or Advocacy of commercial products and/or websites. NPOV requires views to be represented without bias, this applies not only to article text, but to companies, products, external links, and any other material as well. Although it may have been helpful in the past, it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a comprehensive list of companies, products or external links. Hu12 06:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But I believe there is still a way to include examples of the major products in this space that still conforms to WP policy. Quite frankly, excluding all mention of the products makes this article fairly uninformative. Is there no middle ground? Ronnotel 13:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hu12, I would appreciate a response to my request about middle ground - if we take your interpretation to the extreme, all mention of commercial entities would be stricken from WP. I think it is possible to describe the major products in this space in a manner that is consistent with WP policy. Do you disagree? Ronnotel 15:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure you can understand Wikipedia's reasons for having these policies. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, its not for individuals or companies to promote products or websites that they have an interest in. However, I'd like to help you by suggesting Yellowikis which can be found here for something of this nature. Hu12 16:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have no particular ax to grind - I have no interest in any of these products per se. However I am interested in the product space in general - and because the space is in large part defined by the available products, I believe it does a dis-service to the reader to exclude all mention of them. There are literally thousands of references to products in WP - do you believe they should all be removed? If not, can you point me to an example of one that does meet WP policy in your view? I'm not saying that the description that was removed was optimal - however I think it is rather narrow-minded to simply assert that no products can be mentioned. Ronnotel 17:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)