Talk:Competition
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Does any one else feel the comment on Enron is a bit misplaced? Bit speculative and non consensus? --(talk)BozMo 22:02, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
Also why should competition be antagonistic as implied? genomes competing to get on the DNA aren't really antagonistic ---(talk)BozMo 22:04, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
In line with the accompanying criticisms, I would suggest that the article needs a major rewrite for style and substance. I've worked on it a little (including the section on sport), but it needs to be enhanced by those with knowledge of the areas reflected by the headings which contain no more than cursory discussions of the subtopics. This is an important topic. soverman 16 Jun 2005 0133 (UTC)
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[edit] Directness of economic competition
This article says that brand competition is the most direct. Yet my impression is that there is an even more direct form of competition, between identical products, such as otherwise equivalent stores selling the same CD at different prices. I remember this as being a property of pure capitalism. Is there a name for this? Does this make sense? Deco 07:30, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- You make an interesting point, one that I have not seen mentioned anywhere before. From a marketing point of view a CD offered for sale in one location is not the same product as the same CD offered for sale in another location. This is because in business a product is much more than a collection of atoms. There are a whole host of psychological, service, and symbolic factors that constitute a product offering. So in your example, locational factors serve as the basis of competition, that is, the products differ due to the convenience of the retail location, the service provided by the staff, the ambiance of the store, the warranty offered at each location, etc., rather than due to differences in the physical product or brand image. Two questions arise. First, "Is competition based on location of availability more direct than competition based on brand image or physical characteristics?", Secondly "Is locational competition different enough from other forms of product/brand level competition that it should constitute a new level of competition?". If you answer "no" to the second question, as most marketing theorist would, then you would also answer the first question in the negative. If you answer "yes" to the second question, then the first question becomes meaningful and could be answered positively or negatively. For my part I would answer both questions in the negative: Locational competition is just one aspect of product/brand level competition, and it is not the case that locational competition is any more direct than other forms of competition at the brand level. However, in regards to the article, it might be useful to explain in more detail what is ment by brand/product level competition. mydogategodshat 06:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] beef up theory of competition
I would think it would be good to have a quick overview or links to some other studies of competition, such as game theory issues. I'm thinking, for instance, of the prisoner's dilemna and such. AdamDiCarlo 20:44, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] competition vs cooperation?
Before I leap in and add anything, would you consider adding a coda to the page? The terms competition and cooperation are studied separately in the West, but from an Eastern perspective they are considered as necessarily interdependent processes, if they are considered at all. There the perspective on interaction is one of synergy. Since wikipedia is for all peoples this might help to link the gulf in perspectives.
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“For example, inter-species competition, including between humans, is the driving force of adaptation and ultimately, evolution.”
Shouldn’t that be “intra-species”? The next sentence should perhaps be put into the past tense - “claimed” - and instead of “questionable” maybe “however this belief, which had its hey-day around the turn of the twentieth century, is long since discredited”
A broader and deeper matter. It seems to me that there are three, not two, modes of interaction: competition, cooperation, and coercion. It seems to me that all three are pervasive, operating at the macro level (lions, daffodils), the micro level (germs, blood cells), and at the molecular level within living cells (viruses, hormones). It seems to me that there are no other modes of interaction.
Further, it seems to me that of the three competition is paramount, that the other two serve and moderate competition, that competition may occur without the other two but the other two cannot occur without competition being present. For example you coerce (say, point a pistol) in order to extract something (money, sex) that will give you competitive advantage. For example you cooperate (say, in a fishermen’s coop) in order to better compete (in the fishing industry).
I am wondering: Has anyone else made these connections? - Pepper 150.203.2.85 09:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Predator - prey
As far as I know predator - prey relationship is not considered as competition in ecological terms. Are there any sources? --Windom 07:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- You are correct, predator-prey interactions are not competition, but a separate category of interactions, i.e. predation. It seems that the biological and ecological implications of competition are not clear, competition is a strong drive of evolutionary change but also of species divergence which seems to be predominate. The wording of that section should be reworked to be more concise. For example, this section in the first paragraph: "may be biologically motivated because they provide survival advantages" seems to be at odds with the observation that competition reduces fitness for both.L Hamm 06:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ecological/biological definition of competition
Begon, et al have a working definition of competition as: "an interaction between individuals, brought about by a shared requirement for a resource, and leading to a reduction in survivorship, growth and/or reproduction of at least some of the competing individuals concerned." L Hamm 20:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Competitiveness
The section on competitiveness is rather different from the referenced article. Does anyone have any particular sources that we could cite for the section? L Hamm 21:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
