Talk:Comparison of X Window System desktop environments

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this page should probably be called "comparison of Linux desktop environments shouldn't it? also, it would be really good to see some performance specs for each DE too. --134.148.20.3 03:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

In its current state, it should probable be called "Comparison of desktop environments for the X Window System". I think this article should be changed to a comparison of all notable desktop environmets, including Windows, Mac, RISCOS, Amiga etc. Ahy1 22:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I also think it's not particularly useful even as that - I'd expect something on how they differ for the perspective of the user, not 'here's which text editor is included if your distro is KDE-based'.

Tell me how they operate: do they have a 'click here' for the menus button or do you right-click anywhere on the desktop to get the menus or are they drop-down from the top. How do you do things with them? Do you need to have two working hands to do lots of shift clicking or can you operate them with just a mouse? etc etc.

I realise that they allow much customisation - even Windows does that - but, straight out of the box/download, what are they like to use?

Someone also needs to find something on the computing resources necessary to run them. I know from experience that Xfce needs less CPU and graphics power, but how much? Lovingboth 08:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

You could list the minimum system requirements as an indication of resource usage. --sofar 15:35, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

None of these are exclusive to Linux-based OSes; misnomer much. ¦ Reisio 02:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree, so I moved it to "Comparison of X Window System desktop environments". Guy Harris 02:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Criticism 2 More information 3 Include OS X and Windows 4 Konqueror or maybe Kaudiocreator ?

[edit] Criticism

This article needs some serious work. It it not made clear what exactly the list is supposed to be of. The Desktop Environments' own projects? That can't be it, given some of the things on the list. Are they supposed to represent A Very Popular Choice? By who's reckoning? What authority is this cited on? Are they the author's own personal picks? If so I'm sure it's against some policy somewhere. Someone (not me, since I'd just delete the whole thing) needs to take a look at this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.7.154.238 (talk • contribs) 00:56, January 9, 2007.

I took the list from this KDE site and this article. --DevastatorIIC 13:29, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More information

Look at other "comparison of" articles -- Linux distros, instant messenger programs, etc.

What I'd like is information that describes the differences between desktops such as KDE and GNOME, sufficient to help distinguish them or help in a choice. Right now this article tells me nothing, or very little, about their actual comparison. Any chance of expansion? FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 22:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Include OS X and Windows

I think it would be useful from a pedagogical perspective to include OS X and Windows in the comparison. That would mean moving this page to Comparison of desktop environments. Chris Pickett 22:47, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Guy Harris, I saw your recent edits... presently Comparison_of_desktop_environments redirects to Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments. I tried moving this page, but it requires an administrators' help. Chris Pickett 00:11, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know - it's "edits", plural, as in "I backed out my comment because I realized that the page just redirected".

To get the page moved, I'd suggest that you

1. edit the page a bit so that it starts talking about non-X11 desktop environments;

2. request the move on Wikipedia:Requested moves, as the page you get when you click "move" for the Comparison of X Window System desktop environments page suggests.

That's what I've done for at least one rename that was blocked by an edited redirect page. Guy Harris 00:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I was confused by your second edit summary, that's why I replied like that. (It's generally better to strike out text than delete from a talk page.) Thanks for documenting the process here. I've done a requested move before, but I'm focusing on Linux right now, so I'll let you or somebody else who comes along take care of it.

By the way, I think there should be just one column for each of OS X and Windows, not one for each different version. Chris Pickett 01:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I think there should be just one row for each of OS X and Windows; most if not all other "Comparison of XXX" pages have, for each table, one row for each XXX and one column for each point of comparison.

Hmm, I don't know about rows vs. columns. I think that you want more rows than columns for readability, and inverting the table even with OS X and Windows added would still be 6 rows and 14 columns.

Only if there's a significant difference between version N and version M of a given desktop environment should there be separate rows for the two versions. Guy Harris 01:33, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I also don't know about that. Certainly there are significant differences between Windows 98 and Windows Vista, but what I meant to say was that in both cases you want DirectX as the graphics API, Windows Media Player as the media player, and Microsoft Word as the de facto office suite (even though it must be paid for separately). Chris Pickett 02:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Konqueror or maybe Kaudiocreator ?

In the first table, Konqueror stands for cd-ripper in KDE, maybe Kaudiocreator was meant there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.178.5.192 (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC).