Talk:Communist party
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[edit] Albert
Regarding the recent change, was Albert Einstein really a communist? He opposed fascism, but that alone does not make one a Commie. 63.107.135.116 19:14, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Einstein was certainly an outspoken socialist. Read, for example, his 1949 essay "Why Socialism?". However, I don't know whether he was a communist or not. In any case, he did mention his extreme dislike of the Soviet Union and Soviet-style societies on numerous occasions, so if he was a communist, then he must have been a very anti-stalinist one. -- Mihnea Tudoreanu 10:51, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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- "Einstein was a member, sponsor, or affiliated with thirty-four communist fronts between 1937 and 1954." http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/einstein.htm 144.32.128.112 09:11, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- Red-baiting Albert Einstein? Come on.
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RESPONSE: Einstein was a non-Marxist socialist. Socialism in its most generic definition simply calls for an equitable distribution of a country's wealth. There were Middle Class socialist movements that weren't Marxist - The Fabian movement and British Labor just to name a couple. Marxism is a variation of socialism, but not all socialism is Marxist.
[edit] CPC and the World Communist Movement
I object to the statement that most communists parties would have broken relations with the Communist Party of China. In fact CPC has reentered the World Communist Movement, and established firmer relations with many of the main communist parties. Those denouncing the CPC as traitors, generally belong to the maoist movement.--Soman 15:36, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
--- This is wrong. Communists worldwide, both descended from and opposed to the worldwide Maoist movement, generally oppose China as it stands today. If many of the main ones in this "World Communist Movement" accept China into their ranks, it only shows that they, not the rest of us, are revisionist. 71.246.71.158 18:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Moldova
"However, as of 2004, this nominally communist government has not distinguished itself in any significant way from the capitalist government which preceded it."
I think this is wrong. I remember reading in a copy of Challenge that the Communists slashed the military budget and poured the equivalent money into health and education. 144.32.128.112 09:11, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
That's not communist. What about those actions makes them anything but social-democratic? 71.246.71.158 18:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] "Famous Communists" section
I'm inclined to merge the list in this section into List of Communists, and remove it from this page. This article is about communist parties, so shouldn't have a random list of individuals, some of whom were never even part of any communist party (Karl Marx was long dead by the founding of the first one!). What might be useful, and I can't provide this, is a list of all places and times where communist parties have governed a state; the intro says 21 nations have at one time been governed by a communist party. Thoughts? CDC (talk) 17:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
- I've now done this merge, and deleted the list from this article. The list here was mostly duplicated from List of Communists. CDC (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cuba
Is this article really trying to say that Castro aligned with the Soviet Uoin becease he was snubed by Eisenhower? Come of it.
After Fidel Castro's nationalistic revolt in Cuba, he was snubbed by President Eisenhower, who went out to play golf on the day he was scheduled to meet with Castro, and assigned Vice President Richard Nixon to meet with Castro instead. Castro was extremely annoyed at the slight, and entered into negotiations with the Soviet Union. Castro aligned with the Soviets and declared himself a communist shortly afterward.
from Communist party#Cuba--JK the unwise 11:33, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Streamlining with other 'Communism' articles
I propose that this article be limited to giving a definition of what a communist party is (democratic centralism, etc.), leaving all issues of the historical developments of communist parties and examples of communist governance in other relevant articles, like Communism, communist state, List of Communist Parties, etc. --Soman 15:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] TIMELINE ISSUE
I think there is a timeline issue with the way the introductory section:
The first international Marxist organization was called the Communist League, advocates of the principles put forth in Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels' Communist Manifesto and inspired by the example of the Paris Commune. The group dissolved in 1852 after breaking into factional quarrels.
The Paris Commune was in 1871...The Communist Leage broke up in 1852. If anything it was influenced by the Revolutions of 1848.
[edit] In Soviet Russia... (obligatory)
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[edit] This article
There is a big problem is overlapping material at articles like Communism, History of Communism and this one. IMHO, virtually all material on the history of the communist movement should be brought over to History of Communism, and this article should deal uniquely with the concept of a communist party (leninist organization, organizational structure, explain concepts of PB and CC, working methods, mass organizations, international relations, role of press in communist parties etc.). --Soman 09:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
